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Posted on 12/19/21 at 3:04 pm to The Boat
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doubt there's been that few. They're not testing for what variant it is when you get tested. There's certainly been way more.
Who gives AF? Why are we tracking the sniffles?
Posted on 12/19/21 at 3:31 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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would be spread easier but become less lethal.
its more random than that but your spread easy but be less scary is certainly one possibility.
and other variants may kill better but slow enough to spread.
"all possibilities arise simultaneously in space time". all.
good bad and indifferent.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 3:39 pm to TideSaint
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There have been 830 total Omicron cases in the United State
I don’t support shutting anything, but it’s way to soon to dismiss the concerns. The hospitals where I have privileges at are already 95% full. They started getting ready to put up tents again. The surge is coming, but even if it doesn’t there is no harm in being prepared. Again I don’t support lockdowns, shutting stuff down, vaccine mandates for nonhealthcare workers, mask mandates, etc. However, I do support raising awareness and getting prepared. I wish our political leaders felt the same.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 3:48 pm to WeeWee
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They started getting ready to put up tents again. The surge is coming
Posted on 12/19/21 at 3:59 pm to notiger1997
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They started getting ready to put up tents again. The surge is coming
Why are you laughing at hospitals getting prepared for a potential surge?
Posted on 12/19/21 at 4:01 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:what if this is not a normal virus but was a manipulated one? Then what?
I seem to recall someone saying that as the virus (which came from China) mutates, it would be spread easier but become less lethal.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 4:16 pm to Diamondawg
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what if this is not a normal virus but was a manipulated one? Then what?
Then it would depends on the particular mutations (if you think it’s natural) or manipulations (if you think it’s not natural). So far the research is showing the omicron mutations make it more contagious but less virulent (however that is limited research and subject to change). Unlike delta where the changes made it more contagious and more virulence.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 4:22 pm to WeeWee
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The hospitals where I have privileges at are already 95% full. They started getting ready to put up tents again. The surge is coming, but even if it doesn’t there is no harm in being prepared.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 4:30 pm to WeeWee
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Why are you laughing at hospitals getting prepared for a potential surge?
Because the surges have all been so exaggerated beyond belief. There have been tent hospitals and ship hospitals and church hospitals and dome hospitals that were set up over the past 2 years and largely gone unused.
Meanwhile there is actual floor space going unused in many hospitals at the same time. It has largely been a manpower shortage, not a bed shortage. This is now further exacerbated by the vaccine mandates.
The times of the “surges” have been some of the very slowest times for many health care providers, with few patients and little to do, because of the overreaction and shutting down of health care. The shut downs have harmed patients and harmed the resilience of the health care system.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 5:36 pm to lagallifrey
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I don’t support shutting anything, but it’s way to soon to dismiss the concerns. The hospitals where I have privileges at are already 95% full.
BS .... NYC had a Mercy ship 1,000 beds ......sent it home unused. Tent hospitals set up ...unused ....
Stop the hype BS and actually read what has happened. More important .... move out of a blue city ....don't bring the politics with you.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 5:41 pm to TideSaint
Hasn't been circulating long enough for any to die.
That being said, no Omicron deaths in South Africa as of yesterday.
That being said, no Omicron deaths in South Africa as of yesterday.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 5:42 pm to CitizenK
2000 people globally die every year from being struck by lightning
Posted on 12/19/21 at 6:11 pm to TheHarahanian
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What little media coverage I’ve paid attention to is reporting that it’s deadly and spreading like wildfire
Then you the opposite is the truth
Posted on 12/19/21 at 6:14 pm to lagallifrey
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Because the surges have all been so exaggerated beyond belief. There have been tent hospitals and ship hospitals and church hospitals and dome hospitals that were set up over the past 2 years and largely gone unused.
I don't know about nationwide, but we used 2 out of the three tent wards set up during the delta surge back in the summer and used one tent for almost a year last year.
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Meanwhile there is actual floor space going unused in many hospitals at the same time. It has largely been a manpower shortage, not a bed shortage.
Not the case at my hospital. During the delta surge we had a full hospital and still needed extra space. We also had a manpower shortage which kept us from being able to utilize the third tent ward fully and eventually made us close it early. However, manpower issues did not affect the number of patients in physical hospital rooms.
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The times of the “surges” have been some of the very slowest times for many health care providers, with few patients and little to do, because of the overreaction and shutting down of health care. The shut downs have harmed patients and harmed the resilience of the health care system.
1. Just because OLOL had problems does not mean it is a nationwide problem.
2. Next weekend is Christmas and that is going to cause an increase in cases of covid as well as the flu and common colds all of which can cause people with chronic conditions like CHF, ESRD, uncontrolled diabetes, etc to get sick and need hospitalization. So we are predicting a surge in admissions for a variety of health conditions after Christmas. It turns out that it is suppose to rain or snow every day here the week after Christmas. Not the best conditions to be putting up tents and moving very expensive and specialized healthcare electronics in. However, this week is suppose to be relatively pretty weather. So we are going ahead and putting up the tents in case we need them while the weather is nice. That way we have the ventilators and other equipment as well as the extra bedspace ready if we need it. That way we can delay or avoid having to stop elective procedures and other stuff that we have had to do in the past. If we do not need them, then the only thing we lost was parking space. That is called being proactive and increasing the resiliency of our healthcare system.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 6:18 pm to Diamondawg
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what if this is not a normal virus but was a manipulated one? Then what?
Well, it IS a man made, manipulated one. We know this. Nowhere in nature do we find where covid19 jumped from a bat, a pangolin to a human host. Nowhere.
And yet, it's still acting like a 'normal' virus, getting weaker, less lethal, as it mutates.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 7:45 pm to Pendulum
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Luckily it's so contagious, vaccines and mitigation won't inhibit its spread. So the incompetents in charge are unable to fk this up.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 7:52 pm to TideSaint
Can someone find out where all those deaths are happening at and send our current swamp creatures there to "investigate it" and hang around with all these people just to report back to us. Something like return back to the full session of House of Reps and senators and lock the doors until they figure it out or...., you know the thing.
Posted on 12/19/21 at 7:54 pm to WeeWee
It’s a fine thing that you guys at your hospital are acting out of caution. Understand that the rest of us are pissed off, not at hospital preparedness, but at the attack on our freedoms in order to protect a bunch of fat mother frickers. None of them are being told to lose weight. None of them are being threatened with job loss, etc like the unvaccinated are.
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