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Let’s talk AR pistol build
Posted on 12/17/21 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 12/17/21 at 3:55 pm
With recent uptick in crime in EBR area, I’ve decided to piece together an AR pistol. Due to ammo shortages with .300 black, mine will be a 5.56 for now and when ammo shortages ease a bit, I’ll snag a .300 upper.
I’m thinking 10.5 inch barrel should give me a boost in “stopping power” but looking for input on what y’all feel are must haves on this build.
I’m debating an FRT trigger or WOT, folding stock, and a good optic. PSA has some really good sales right now.
What are some thoughts?
I’m thinking 10.5 inch barrel should give me a boost in “stopping power” but looking for input on what y’all feel are must haves on this build.
I’m debating an FRT trigger or WOT, folding stock, and a good optic. PSA has some really good sales right now.
What are some thoughts?
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Posted on 12/17/21 at 4:00 pm to TaderSalad
quote:You going to war or something? 10.5” 556 will kick your arse
With recent uptick in crime in EBR area, I’ve decided to piece together an AR pistol
Posted on 12/17/21 at 4:11 pm to jimbeam
No, but I’m a multiple option kinda guy. If I’m using this thing then SHTF already and this needs to fit multiple roles. I’ve shot all kinds of guns for years. Im not worried about operating whatever I build.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 4:16 pm to jimbeam
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10.5” 556 will kick your arse
Meh. It's loud, but that's about it. Pop a can on it, and it's all day fun.
I have a 10.5" 5.56 and a 10.5" 300BO. Both are relatively handy and fun to shoot.
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 12/17/21 at 4:22 pm to TaderSalad
y/t
16’ - average 3200 fps
10.5 - averages 2800 for
7.5 - averages 2400 fps.
The 10.5 is just an all around good option, imo
16’ - average 3200 fps
10.5 - averages 2800 for
7.5 - averages 2400 fps.
The 10.5 is just an all around good option, imo
Posted on 12/17/21 at 4:55 pm to TaderSalad
I have a 10.5” pistol build that is one of my truck guns.
Not sure what it means when another poster said it would kick your arse.
Not sure what it means when another poster said it would kick your arse.
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 12/17/21 at 5:24 pm to TaderSalad
I'm going with 12.5 to get alittle bit more range out of it. Also I'm shooting 77gr.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 5:40 pm to uptowntiger84
You gon get some velocity outta that
Posted on 12/17/21 at 7:40 pm to TaderSalad
Get a 10.3" from Andro Corps or a 12.5" from IWI instead of PSA.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 8:37 pm to TaderSalad
In the process of building one myself. Gonna go with the 11.3” BA Hanson.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 8:46 pm to TaderSalad
quote:
10.5” 556 will kick your arse
Meh. It's loud, but that's about it.
Yeah, a 10.5" barreled 223 Rem will have mild recoil, but it will be VERY loud. I've shot a bunch of 223 Rem rounds through a 14" Contender on prairie dog hunts and it was loud. I can't imagine how loud a 10.5" barrel would be.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 8:49 pm to TaderSalad
My SHTF gun is a SBR with a 10.5” Noveske CHF barrel. Have a surefire RC2 can and ACOG with ACSS reticle. It’s about as perfect of a SHTF gun as I could come up with. It sits under the backseat of my crew cab.
My original barrel was 11” Sabre Defense. I bought it from a shop online from Los Angeles of all places in 2008. It was the first SBR build for me. They used to make barrels for tge military back 15 years ago. There barrels were top notch. Dumbass owners started selling machine guns illegally overseas and got busted.
My original barrel was 11” Sabre Defense. I bought it from a shop online from Los Angeles of all places in 2008. It was the first SBR build for me. They used to make barrels for tge military back 15 years ago. There barrels were top notch. Dumbass owners started selling machine guns illegally overseas and got busted.
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 12/17/21 at 9:19 pm to TaderSalad
I'll be watching the recs here as I've decided to build an AR pistol. Although I've shot a lot of rounds through the years, I'm a relative "newbie" to the AR platform. I have a Ruger AR in 5.56, but haven't shot it much. The land my cousin and I own and deer hunt on in SW AR has had an influx of wild hogs in the past 6 mos. We've thinned them out some during deer season, but will need to keep up the pressure during the off season. From what I've read thus far, I'll prob be better off shooting supersonics, but I'd like to give subs (Sierra 220 round nose) a try as well. I already have 300/221 dies and appropriate bullets. This is what I'm looking at so far:
-300 Blackout upper w/ a 12" barrel. I already have a SilencerCo Harvester 300 suppressor. Undecided on brand of barrel. Twist will be 1:7 or 1:8.
-Undecided on the lower. I want an accurate gun, but don't want to blow money needlessly on the lower. I'm thinking a good barrel and a decent lower should result in an accurate gun.
-Brace is also undecided, but I lean toward a simple one.
-From what I've read, I'll need a pistol- or carbine-length gas system.
-I'd like to get a kit that has all the necessary parts and not waste money on a stock trigger I'll replace. Undecided on the custom trigger. My cousin has previously done an AR rifle build and has the specialized tools he says I'll need.
Any other suggestions?
-300 Blackout upper w/ a 12" barrel. I already have a SilencerCo Harvester 300 suppressor. Undecided on brand of barrel. Twist will be 1:7 or 1:8.
-Undecided on the lower. I want an accurate gun, but don't want to blow money needlessly on the lower. I'm thinking a good barrel and a decent lower should result in an accurate gun.
-Brace is also undecided, but I lean toward a simple one.
-From what I've read, I'll need a pistol- or carbine-length gas system.
-I'd like to get a kit that has all the necessary parts and not waste money on a stock trigger I'll replace. Undecided on the custom trigger. My cousin has previously done an AR rifle build and has the specialized tools he says I'll need.
Any other suggestions?
Posted on 12/18/21 at 4:39 am to lsufan1971
quote:
They used to make barrels for tge military back 15 years ago. There barrels were top notch.
I've got a Sabre 16" on the first AR I bought. Great barrel other than the fact the engraving was done with by hand with a vibration engraver; it looks like a child did it. Doesn't show with the handguard, I just always thought it was funny. Apparently marking the caliber was something of an afterthought.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 4:58 am to TaderSalad
Love my mk18 (10.3) but if it's going to be your only one grab a 13.7 pin and weld and have a stock instead of a brace
Working on building my second now
Red dot or eotech are the go to unless you go lpvo route which my eyes aren't getting any better I'm grabbing for my next build
Working on building my second now
Red dot or eotech are the go to unless you go lpvo route which my eyes aren't getting any better I'm grabbing for my next build
Posted on 12/18/21 at 5:25 am to davidlsu
Not my only one. Mainly a vehicle rig to deal with uptick in blue city violence if needed.
I do want to get an SBR eventually.
I do want to get an SBR eventually.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 5:31 am to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
quote:
Get a 10.3" from Andro Corps or a 12.5" from IWI instead of PSA.
Have you had bad luck with PSA? I checked both those companies out and PSA has one for $529 right now.
This would be a badass little gun to bust out during a hood rat shite convention.
This post was edited on 12/18/21 at 5:40 am
Posted on 12/18/21 at 5:33 am to TigerOnThe Hill
quote:
Undecided on the lower. I want an accurate gun, but don't want to blow money needlessly on the lower. I'm thinking a good barrel and a decent lower should result in an accurate gun.
A lower has exactly zero impact on accuracy unless it's just so loose you get a different sight picture each time. Any in-spec lower is going to give you the same accuracy.
quote:
Undecided on the custom trigger. My cousin has previously done an AR rifle build and has the specialized tools he says I'll need.
- Aftermarket triggers are popular enough that you can get a lower parts kit without the trigger, although it doesn't save you much money.
- You just need a drift pin/punch set, no special tools
- It's not the only good choice but you'll be very happy with a Geissele SSA-E. Wait for a holiday sale; it's been a few years but I got my last one for $180 from either Midway or Primary Arms.
- The trigger will have a far, far greater impact on accuracy than your lower
- Don't be tempted by the price to buy an "improved" mil-spec trigger if you're looking for a better-than-stock trigger. You can polish those things all day long but you're fighting geometry. Either spend some money or just stay with mil-spec.
This post was edited on 12/18/21 at 5:35 am
Posted on 12/18/21 at 9:32 am to Flats
Thx for the good suggestions, Flats. I kinda suspected the lower wouldn't have much affect on accuracy, but it's really good to hear the confirmation.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 1:42 pm to TaderSalad
quote:
Have you had bad luck with PSA? I checked both those companies out and PSA has one for $529 right now.
Their QC is very inconsistent. You may get a good product at a great price or you may get a lemon.
The IWI I was referencing is the Zion AR pistol. 12.5" barrel with a midlength gas system and $699.
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