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Can someone clarify/explain NIL rules regarding communication with potential recruits

Posted on 12/15/21 at 11:58 am
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/15/21 at 11:58 am
It seems really obvious, so I hate having to ask, but are businesses allowed to contact potential prospects BEFORE they sign with a school? It would seem like the NCAA could place restrictions on communications between athletes and anything to do with NIL deals until after they've committed to a university...is something like this in place?

Yeah I know, these things will go on regardless of whatever rules are out there, but it at least be some sort of barrier.
Posted by deathvalleyfreak43
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14527 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 11:59 am to
It’s pretty simple- a school wants a player all they have to do is tell a rich donor to give that player money. That’s pretty much it
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30800 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:00 pm to
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It would seem like the NCAA could place restrictions on communications between athletes and anything to do with NIL deals until after they've committed to a university...is something like this in place?
How do you think this could possibly be enforced?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
289763 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:01 pm to
NIL has nothing to do with the school. In theory.
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82729 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:02 pm to
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How do you think this could possibly be enforced?


Same way they enforce recruiting dead periods

Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30800 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:10 pm to
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Same way they enforce recruiting dead periods
Which is?
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
5917 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:30 pm to
NCAA NIL Policy
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 12:31 pm
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11616 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:35 pm to
Serious answer? No.

No one here can explain specific NIL rules. Anyone that tells you anything specific is guessing or going off of hearsay.

It went from legislation to approval to implementation so quickly that the rules and guidelines have yet to be put in place, much less made uniform and enforceable by the NCAA.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

It seems really obvious, so I hate having to ask, but are businesses allowed to contact potential prospects BEFORE they sign with a school? It would seem like the NCAA could place restrictions on communications between athletes and anything to do with NIL deals until after they've committed to a university...is something like this in place?
Depends on the business. If the business, or someone representing the business, either/or, is considered a booster the loophole you are noting doesn't exist.

Boosters are not supposed to give gifts or benefits or contact a recruit. A civilian non-booster can.

Now, keep in mind, the NCAA definition of a booster is very wide and liberal. So almost any business that would NIL a LSU recruit probably meets one or more definition of a booster and it becomes impermissible contact/benefits.

But you are right in one thing- the NCAA has not clarified or reconciled if contacting for an NIL deal (which the NCAA has now acknowledged they can not interfere with or block) are "booster contact" overlap or are independent of each other.

My guess that is intentional by the racketeering experts in Indianapolis so that they can pick and choose when to apply booster rules and when to call it NIL contact. That way the business has to kick up to them also to avoid getting their NIL school and player busted.
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NIL has nothing to do with the school. In theory.
In theory... except in the condition above when the NIL participant is also meeting the very broad definition of a booster. That has always been the bridge. Hence why the best way to "maximize" (*wink & nod*) the NIL rules is to form a new, unconnected, non-profit and use that as the conduit for NIL money to avoid being called a booster (or having to "sponsor" programs for the NCAA otherwise known as 'kicking up')
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 2:31 pm
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
49278 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:59 pm to
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In theory
. Key word here because there really are rules
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
44553 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 4:11 pm to
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It went from legislation to approval to implementation so quickly that the rules and guidelines have yet to be put in place, much less made uniform and enforceable by the NCAA.


This happened because they had no choice due to Court Rulings. In addition, prior to those rulings, 28 states passed NIL related legislation prohibiting state institutions from limiting NIL licensing for students, athletes or not. All that effectively neutered the NCAA's ability to do anything.
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