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Only Trump and Vivek realize we are already in a cold civil war

Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:08 pm
Posted by Kjnstkmn
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:08 pm
Only Trump and Vivek realize we are already in a cold civil war

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VR: We are absolutely in a war with the fate of the country at stake. And you had better know it. You know you are in a war when there is no middle ground, no room to compromise.

Either you believe in free speech, or you believe in censorship. You can’t have both.

Either you believe in a meritocracy, or you believe in group quotas. You can’t have both.

Either you believe in the founding ideals of this country or you believe America is systemically racist.

Either you think it’s an honor to fly the flag or you are embarrassed to fly it. You can’t have it both ways.

If you think America is systemically racist, you hate America. If you think America’s founding principles are the world’s greatest remedy for racism, you love America.

These differences are simply too large to bridge. This is what makes it a war. If you don’t recognize that you are in a war, then you will negotiate with the other side, but that will only lead ultimately to surrender. And if we lose this war, we will have full-fledged tyranny.


You see, if people are free, then there will be group differences in outcomes because often groups have different preferences and talents. The only way you can make groups equal in terms of outcome is by force.

Those who hate America are in power practically everywhere. In effect, the woke regime is a hostile occupying power not so different than Germany when it occupied France during WWII. Now, we need someone to lead the resistance.


TK: Does anyone else see that we are in a war?

VR: Trump. He knows we are up against an enemy that doesn’t want to improve America but destroy it. I give Trump a lot of credit for this. In a war you must have clarity, you can’t be beating around the bush.

TK: Why don’t your other competitors for the nomination see what you and Trump see, that we are in a war? The same question could be asked about Republican leadership generally.


VR: Because they are stuck in the past, stuck in old ways of thinking. What they think they see is that we’re going through one of the ups and downs that America has gone through time and again but has always found its way through. They can’t imagine that this time she may well not.

They fight over tax or welfare reform. This is the same fight that Republicans and Democrats have been having for all of modern American history. But this is not the fight today. They are all establishment politicians, so they tend to follow the crowd and they want to be liked by the establishment; they want to be interviewed by mainstream media and invited to establishment think tank events.

So, for example, they are unwilling to say BLM is a racist organization—which is exactly what it is—because they don’t want to be called “racists.” Every Republican who does not criticize BLM is part of the problem. BLM received billions of dollars from cowardly corporations. How many lives did BLM save? Approximately zero. It was all a scam. CEO’s were forced to bend the knee. But I refused to do so. And it’s the same with ESG which is all the rage. Here too, I refused to go along.


https://truthsocial.com/@TomKlingenstein/111501164883365255

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This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 8:14 pm
Posted by Kjnstkmn
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:09 pm to
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But there’s another more important reason why Republican leaders shrink from acknowledging that we are at war. Like most people, political leaders have a strong inclination to delude themselves rather than face harsh truths. I think if we don’t face these truths, we will lose our country.

TK: Are you saying you opponents are cowards?

VR: Yes. Which is why they have their heads in the sand.
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 8:10 pm
Posted by Masterag
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:11 pm to
Says the guy that profited big Pharma gazillions.
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:13 pm to
People promoting this are playing the government’s game of divide and conquer. The government is the enemy, not your neighbors.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:14 pm to
Correct we are at war - but it needs to be not against each other but against the UniParty and the fake news media

Kash Patel tells members of media, government: 'We're going to come after you'
https://abcnews.go.com/US/kash-patel-tells-members-media-government-after-trumps/story?id=105432592
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 8:29 pm
Posted by BengalOnTheBay
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:15 pm to
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The government is the enemy, not your neighbors.


Great, then stop voting for the assholes that want to use the government to control every single aspect of your life.

I'll put you down as a Trump vote next year. TIA
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:16 pm to
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Only Trump and Vivek realize we are already in a cold civil war


No, there's a lot more out there that understand what's going on than just those two guys. This isn't some super special knowledge that only those two guys have tapped into.

As for DeSantis being controlled by the WEF - going to need some evidence on that one. He's for sure a lean to the establishment in DC and there is little hope that he would stop the gravy train for the elites, the MIC, etc. But control by the WEF? I haven't seen evidence for that, but if someone has some I'd love to see it.

Vivek has been exposed, though. He says what you want to hear. It stops there for him. He's an ivy league ticket puncher - he'll never do anything that compromises his ability to accumulate more wealth, power, and influence. And let's not pretend he's a man of the people either. He looks down on the people and the regular American.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:21 pm to
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What they think they see is that we’re going through one of the ups and downs that America has gone through time and again but has always found its way through. They can’t imagine that this time she may well not.





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They fight over tax or welfare reform. This is the same fight that Republicans and Democrats have been having for all of modern American history. But this is not the fight today. They are all establishment politicians, so they tend to follow the crowd and they want to be liked by the establishment; they want to be interviewed by mainstream media and invited to establishment think tank events.


This is the truth.
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 8:25 pm
Posted by Kjnstkmn
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:27 pm to
https://truthsocial.com/@KarliBonne/111536725432697302

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Holy Sheeeeeeet Vivek goes full blown truther and calls all three Donald Trump boot lickers! This debate is done!


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- J6 was an inside job
- govt has lied for 20 years about 9/11
- great replacement theory is real
- 2020 election was stolen
- Russia collusion was an attempted coup


Posted by Kjnstkmn
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:34 pm to


https://truthsocial.com/@KarliBonne/111536761266911951

This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 8:42 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:35 pm to
Nah. It’s a culture war. And neither are equipped to fight it.
Posted by Honest Tune
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:37 pm to
Obvi
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:43 pm to
Yea, man, DeSantis absolutely doesn't understand that.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:43 pm to
They said the same shite about Eugene Debs. Don’t mistake your ignorance of history for your exclusion from it.

Dividing people into in-groups and out-groups is the classic early play of an autocrat.
This post was edited on 12/6/23 at 8:45 pm
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:55 pm to
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autocrat


Who would that be?
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:58 pm to
Remains to be seen

Posted by Kjnstkmn
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:00 pm to


Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

we’re going through one of the ups and downs that America has gone through time and again but has always found its way through.


Well yeah

America was here long before we were and it will be here long after we’re not
Posted by RiverCityTider
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Member since Oct 2008
6088 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:14 pm to
This thread sort of illustrates what Vivek is saying.

But he got one thing wrong. The country is at war... but the country is divided into thirds.

A third hate America.
A third love it.
And a third are to stupid to get what's going on.

I put the DeSantis people in the third group. But not necessarily because DeSantis is NWO, but because they are willing to attack and malign patriots to promote a campaign which is dead ...over.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
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Member since Aug 2020
16214 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 9:16 pm to
True Dat
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