What does the word ‘conservative’ mean in

Do you support everything that the Democrat party adheres to today?

Pretty much. The establishment within the Democratic Party is too moderate but I’m a realist. I’ll hold my nose an vote for a moderate Democrat when necessary.

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an old liberal/progressive, I have known for decades what beliefs/ideology that I support

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The establishment within the Democratic Party is too moderate

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So you're a communist, just come out and say it. Why hide behind words?

RFK Jr is a classical liberal, but I'm guessing you see him as dangerous.

Well i consider myself a fiscal conservative, social moderate….but I will 100 percent vote with any person who has a (R) next to their name now
Unfortunately it’s become that way…long ago I’d look at different individuals regardless of party. But now it’s too clear to see that even a moderate dem will side with a progressive movement no matter what
I care about fiscal issues, freedom of speech, 2nd amendment rights, legal immigration and energy independence more than anything
I have my opinions on gay marriage, abortion, legal pot, etc. but don’t really care as much as the other things

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This is where it gets confusing. Your point seems to be that being conservative now simply means to support Trump. The traditional view no longer applies?

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Nowhere did I say or imply that and, frankly, it is an uniformed viewpoint from you.

January 6th was a farce and Chaney kowtowed to Pelosi on the sham while going along and eagerly suppressing information that would show that.

Meanwhile, people were sitting in jail without due process.

I couldn't care less about her personal vendetta against Trump, but suppressing information while people sit in jail because you want to "get him" is bullshite.

This is how far the political window has moved. Trump is, at best, a pragmatist and moderate/centralist in his politics, but you progressives have painted him like some sort of far right wing crazy. Trump IS NOT a conservative despite the media that you seem to guzzle.

Conservatism, within the context of US politics means what it has always meant. In simple terms Conservatism idealizes minimal/less government which means minimal/less regulation, minimal/less spending (except on defense), and minimal/less taxation; an Originalist interpretation of and adherence to the Constitution and the rule of law; adherence to moral values as long as they don't conflict with the former (i.e you can be a tranny- nobody cares, although you're still a mentally-challenged weirdo, and you have that right and no one is trying to outlaw it; you just don't have the right to groom kids for sexual abuse and molestation and you don't have the right to public indecency).

It's not having an "R" next to your name.

If you vote in favor of the appointment of a court justice who doesn't hold an Originalist interpretive philosophy (i.e. their philosophy is that the Constitution is a "living, breathing document the meaning of which can change based on how you feel at the moment), then you're not a Conservative. Hi, Lindsay Graham.

If you sign an executive order that violates the 2nd Amendment (like, say, banning firearm parts), you're not a Conservative.

If you trash actual Conservatives and endorse their primary opponents who endorse big spending and more regulation, you're not a Conservative.

If you gleefully persecute the supporters of your political rival and justify throwing them in prison without due process of law for walking through the Capitol, you're most certainly not a Conservative. frick Lez Cheney.

If you signed or voted for a $1.4 Trillion omnibus bill, you're not a Conservative.

If you ever endorsed locking down businesses and entire states for any reason, you aren't a Conservative.

There aren't many actual Conservatives. Very few, actually.

Liz Cheney is most certainly not among them.


Also, minimal/less government is not the same as NO government/anarchy. That's the end result of Libertarianism.

Liz Cheney was kicked out of the Wyoming Republican party. She served on the J6 committee at the request of Democrats. Republicans could not appoint their own representatives. First time in history this has happened. Countervailing viewpoints were not allowed. Contrarian evidence was not allowed. This was not democratic.

THIS IS NOT CONSERVATIVE. This is UN-AMERICAN. She deserves to be called names. Conservative is not one of them.

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Republicans no longer consider her to be a conservative despite the fact that she checks every box other than kissing Trump’s arse.

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It is not that she is no longer a conservative. It is just that being a conservative is no longer the #1 requirement for a large swath of the Republican party.

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Liz Cheney is the textbook definition of conservative by any traditional standards.

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