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PT board’s #2 choice for President disagrees with SC on Affirmative Action

Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:32 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
124030 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:32 pm
RFKjr:

quote:

"Regarding the Supreme Court banning affirmative action in higher ed — I know many Americans feel that purely race-based decisions are unfair. However, this feeling misses important context. The effects of racist policies going back centuries are now self-perpetuating. Affirmative action understands this and uses race-based policies to undo the effects of racist policies. “Color-blind” admissions tend to favor those who are already in the circle of privilege. It favors those who grew up in affluent, educated households. Wouldn’t you like to invite in those who have been left out in the cold?"


Just a reminder that several Trump supporters on here have come out in support of RFK and said they would vote for him over Desantis.
Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:33 pm to
Yellow dog democrats on this board pretending to be conservatives aren't going to like this.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
86888 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

several Trump supporters on here have come out in support of RFK and said they would vote for him over Desantis.


Sure Jan
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15009 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

Wouldn’t you like to invite in those who have been left out in the cold?"


Yes, that’s precisely why we are against affirmative action. Poor whites and Asian/immigrants are being left out in the cold due to race based admissions favoring blacks.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
124030 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:36 pm to
quote:

Sure Jan


Uh what. It’s a fact.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7436 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

Color-blind” admissions tend to favor those who are already in the circle of privilege.


The only privilege that gets you into college is having a millionaire parent who slips a school official money to get their kid through the door. Those transactions are never official and rarely discovered. Losers blame privilege when they should just blame their own efforts.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
4819 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

It favors those who grew up in affluent, educated households. Wouldn’t you like to invite in those who have been left out in the cold?"


Right. Because poor white people don't exist.
Posted by saray
Member since May 2014
498 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:40 pm to
why does everyone or almost everyone miss this point - every time you give a slot/job to an affirmative action person you screw a more deserving, more capable person weakening the company /country contributing to less productivity and loss of wealth
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
25478 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

It favors those who grew up in affluent, educated households.




Bro, immigrants from poor arse countries are outperforming our kids that have tablets, free food, and a bus that comes to pick them up.

Virtually every child in America has every tool they need in order to be insanely successful.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
22389 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:41 pm to
quote:

The only privilege that gets you into college is having a millionaire parent who slips a school official money to get their kid through the door. Those transactions are never official and rarely discovered. Losers blame privilege when they should just blame their own efforts.



70% of legacy admissions into Ivy league schools are white. 70% of the US is white.

Also, if we stopped pushing the lie that everyone must go to college and if you don't you're a failure then none of this would matter.
Posted by BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
Member since May 2019
7436 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:44 pm to
quote:

if we stopped pushing the lie that everyone must go to college and if you don't you're a failure then none of this would matter.


Totally agree! Trade schools should be recruiting the hell out of our high school students right now.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
37289 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:44 pm to
Brain surgeons and airplane pilots come to mind when lowering standards is brought into the mix. Of course to the degree that lower standards a across the board are implemented the whole system becomes less efficient Cost benefit scenarios. Marxism essentially.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
8935 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:45 pm to
RFK Jr is the new Tulsi.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
16519 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:45 pm to
I love me some RFK but he’s wrong.

This platitude he’s spouting was the stated goal of affirmative action, but honestly, most of the minorities it helped already came from affluent families. See eg: Corey Booker.

And seriously, I’m sure Hunter Biden and Sheila Jackson Lee were infinitely more qualified than the other people Yale didn’t let in.
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12052 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

several Trump supporters


Woe, 3 out of thousands? Wow
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
25021 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:46 pm to
The absolute state of my mate, SirWinston
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
76887 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:48 pm to
He was doing so well.

Posted by BengalOnTheBay
Member since Aug 2022
3855 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:49 pm to
quote:


Uh what. It’s a fact.


Biggest RFK nuthugger on this board is a DeSantis bro...

But it's NBD, RFK is alright.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:50 pm to
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Woe, 3 out of thousands? Wow



Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:52 pm to
quote:

RFK Jr is the new Tulsi.



At least the "principled conservatives" here don't want to plow him.

I hope.
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