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Lawmakers propose letting Massachusetts prisoners donate organs for reduced sentences
Posted on 2/5/23 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 2/5/23 at 12:49 pm
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BOSTON - A new bill proposed on Beacon Hill would allow Massachusetts prisoners to donate their organs for reduced sentences. The legislation would give people anywhere from 60 days to a year off their prison sentence "on the condition that the incarcerated individual has donated bone marrow or organ(s)."
The "act to establish the Massachusetts incarcerated individual bone marrow and organ donation program" is sponsored by Democratic Reps. Judith Garcia, of Chelsea, and Carlos Gonzalez of Springfield.
They say it would "restore bodily autonomy to incarcerated folks" and expand the pool of donors, especially for people of color who struggle to find a match. But critics strongly disagree and say it might even be illegal.
"It's like you're harvesting organs. It just doesn't feel right. It doesn't feel humane," Project Turnaround founder Romilda Pereira told The Boston Globe. "You're bargaining with vulnerable people over their time."
A Brigham & Women's Hospital epidemiologist told the newspaper that the proposal was "perverse."
"There are certainly ways we can engage our free communities in educating them about the options of organ and bone marrow donation," Monik Jiménez said. "But going to our incarcerated population as a source is problematic, at best, and exploitative."
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Haven’t heard of this approach before, but I think it’s a huge stretch to say this gives body autonomy to imprisoned people when it strikes me more like coercion and emotional manipulation. I’m also worried such a policy is ripe for abuse.
I also think this reinforces the point that our prison system is more punitive than it is fostering of rehabilitation, but that’s perhaps overly political.
This post was edited on 2/5/23 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 2/5/23 at 12:52 pm to Ross
"Doc, make sure you put me on that prison transplant list. That sounds great."
Posted on 2/5/23 at 12:54 pm to Ross
The state gets to save money on having the prisoner in the system for less time, and they make money by selling organs.
Can't put my finger on it, but this one really does not sit well with me.
Got it: It feels like Warden Norton in Shawshank Redemption taking all the kickbacks on the State highway contracts by using prison labor.
Can't put my finger on it, but this one really does not sit well with me.
Got it: It feels like Warden Norton in Shawshank Redemption taking all the kickbacks on the State highway contracts by using prison labor.
This post was edited on 2/5/23 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 2/5/23 at 12:54 pm to Ross
Yet we catch hell for having them clean up the side of the road for reduced sentences,
Posted on 2/5/23 at 1:10 pm to Rouge
My first impressions were pretty negative as well.
I think saying it fosters “body autonomy” is kind of ridiculous considering these people have a sort of metaphorical gun to their head.
I think saying it fosters “body autonomy” is kind of ridiculous considering these people have a sort of metaphorical gun to their head.
This post was edited on 2/5/23 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 2/5/23 at 1:13 pm to Ross
Not sure how I feel about this but I do not have a family member that currently needs an organ. I would think has to depend on the crime that was committed as to a reduced sentence.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 1:14 pm to Ross
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Carlos Gonzalez
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Judith Garcia
These assholes need a healthy measure of Christian white male oversight.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 1:15 pm to Tvilletiger
Yeah, same here, I ain’t no con and I’ve voluntarily offered to donate bone marrow and an organ before. They’re just selling body parts for profit and early release.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 1:19 pm to Ross
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Reps. Judith Garcia, of Chelsea, and Carlos Gonzalez of Springfield.
I’ve met those folks. Frankly I have no issue with the legislation.
In a prior life I’d probably be working to secure votes for it.
Their body, their choice. Should be applicable to a lot more situations.
This post was edited on 2/5/23 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 2/5/23 at 1:20 pm to AbitaFan08
I have no doubt the legislation was introduced with good intentions, for whatever it’s worth.
I guess my point is at what point is the choice a choice being made under duress?
I guess my point is at what point is the choice a choice being made under duress?
This post was edited on 2/5/23 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 2/5/23 at 1:24 pm to Ross
What if they die out of state???.. what if spouse denies on religious grounds???
Posted on 2/5/23 at 1:30 pm to AbitaFan08
I think I’d also like to add, on the point if our prison system being overly punitive…
If society is willing to reduce a sentence, it clearly doesn’t need these people in prison. If they just had to be incarcerated for the common good, no organ donation could change that. So why not just let them walk free? Why do you only let them out if they give up an organ?
If society is willing to reduce a sentence, it clearly doesn’t need these people in prison. If they just had to be incarcerated for the common good, no organ donation could change that. So why not just let them walk free? Why do you only let them out if they give up an organ?
Posted on 2/5/23 at 1:38 pm to Ross
This is almost certainly unconstitutional.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 1:45 pm to Joshjrn
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This is almost certainly unconstitutional.
Say more words. How? What article or amendment of the constitution would you be referencing?
This post was edited on 2/5/23 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 2/5/23 at 1:46 pm to Ross
quote:as it should be. screw rehabilitation
I also think this reinforces the point that our prison system is more punitive than it is fostering of rehabilitation,
Posted on 2/5/23 at 1:47 pm to faraway
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as it should be. screw rehabilitation
Good lord if being retarded was a crime you’d be serving a life sentence.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 1:49 pm to Joshjrn
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This is almost certainly unconstitutional.
Point it out?
I 100% approve.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 1:49 pm to faraway
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as it should be. screw rehabilitation
okay Hammurabi
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