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Dare Rosenthal graded out highest among all OLinemen

Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:46 am
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27690 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:46 am
Rosenthal was 72.8

Deculus was the lowest of the starters at 64.3

It should be strongly considered for Rosenthal to replace Deculus permanently when Charles is not suspended — whether that’s at LT or RT and have Charles at the other spot
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:48 am to
I have always felt like Deculus would be a solid guard. He wouldn't have to be as athletic or quick (his weakness) and he could rely on his great strength more.

But he's been much improved at RT this season IMO. I think we stay with him there until we think he can't handle it.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12892 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:48 am to
People put way too much stock in PFF.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:48 am to
Also, is this the whole season graded out so far or one game?

I'd love to see comparison of the whole season v. just the Texas game.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94368 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:48 am to
Regardless of the grade, I think Deculus has done a formidable job. MUCH better than last year.

I don’t think it’s smart to move Rosenthal and replace anyone based off PFF and Northwestern St. pump your brakes.
Posted by Todd O'Connor
MIke Ditka's Restaurant Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2012
1273 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:51 am to
quote:

People put way too much stock in PFF.


Very true. It is a number based off subjective scores and people treat it like football WAR or PER.
Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
4874 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:53 am to
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Regardless of the grade, I think Deculus has done a formidable job. MUCH better than last year

I’ve actually been pleasantly surprised by our OL thus far. It was our biggest area of concern coming in. They’ve definitely improved since last year. Obviously they still have areas to improve on. But they’re trending upward.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
17101 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:53 am to
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 3:37 pm
Posted by TexasTiger24
Houston
Member since Feb 2019
2316 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:54 am to
LT Charles

LG Ed Ingram

C Cush

RG Damien Lewis

RT Rosenthall

This looks nice
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94368 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:56 am to
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got slaughtered for suggesting such a thing


Because it’s ridiculous.
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
4929 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:57 am to
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It is a number based off subjective scores and people treat it like football WAR or PER.

That's true, it's subjective, but it's a better guess than half of the rant drunkenly saying "hey that guy came around Deculus, he must suck"

They take a lot of things into account, and generally the people we consider to be our better players score highly. So it has at least some merit.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:57 am to
Ole Ferriday Trojan baw.


Good for him.
Posted by Geauxst Writer
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
4960 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:57 am to
Our online has been solid.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
20957 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:57 am to
Rosenthal started vs NSU. Was replaced by second series with Traore. Never heard any commentary on why in post game
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:59 am to
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I’ve actually been pleasantly surprised by our OL thus far.


It's amazing what a dynamic passing game that gets the ball out quick does for the offensive line.

We've been screaming this for years. I feel like I'm in the twilight zone now that it's actually happening
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
4913 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:59 am to
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[Rosenthal] Was replaced by second series with Traore

They were just in rotation — did it most of the game.
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 11:03 am
Posted by Todd O'Connor
MIke Ditka's Restaurant Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2012
1273 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 11:00 am to
My only question is how many employees do they have that they can break down all 11 players on both sides of the ball o fr every play for every game.

Who does this for them?
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17350 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 11:03 am to
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People put way too much stock in PFF.
For the most part I like their method for OL and DL, not so much other positions. In fact, I like their method much more than some NFL teams method. Some NFL teams are almost binary; example: did OLman push defender out of hole? If yes, 5 out of 5; if no, 1 out of 5 (get one point for no penalty). PFF will often deduct points because even though they were pushed out of hole, in this example, the leverage was wrong and it caused the RB to adjust his cut into the arms of a LB or give them a 2 because even though they didn't get push, the block was a complete seal.

But, like any grading of any lineman, there's a lot of subjectivity from the eye of the beholder (the grader).
quote:

It's amazing what a dynamic passing game that gets the ball out quick does for the offensive line.

We've been screaming this for years. I feel like I'm in the twilight zone now that it's actually happening
Worth noting that Football Outsiders has us at an overall sack rate of 5.4% (still too high) so far this year; we were at 8.0% last year (waaaay too high).
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 11:07 am
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
32714 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 11:10 am to
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LT Charles
LG Ed Ingram
C Cush
RG Damien Lewis
RT Deculus


FIFY
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
32714 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 11:11 am to
fricking non-sense
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