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Passing offense: 2014-2018
Posted on 11/6/18 at 6:26 am
Posted on 11/6/18 at 6:26 am
I think we can all agree that Les’s main downfall was not being able to develop a QB or passing game after Mett, Jarvis and Odell. I don’t think E should be fired but at some point we have to start producing a passing offense.
Let me start by saying- I think Joe is the best QB out of Etling, Jennings, Harris and Burrow. With that said here’s their numbers, this simply isn’t good enough. This should inspire the offensive staff to take a good long hard look at themselves because a lack of a passing offense cost the last HC his job.
2014 Cam Cameron:
Jennings: 48.9% 1611 Yds 11 TDs 7 Ints 118.3 rating
Harris: 55.6% 452 Yds 6 TDs 2 Ints 175 rating
Total: 2063 Yds 17 TDs 9 Ints
2015 Cam Cameron:
Harris: 53.8% 2165 Yds 13 TDs 6 Ints 130.6 rating
2016 Cam Cameron / Einsminger:
Etling: 59.5% 2123 11 TDs 5 INTs 135.6 rating
Harris: 52% 139 Yds 1 TD 2 INT 95.9 rating
Total: 2262 yds 12 TDs 7 INts
2017 Canada:
Etling 60% 2463 Yds 16 TDs 2 Ints 153 rating
2018 (so far) Einsminger:
Burrow 53.5% 1728 yds 6 TDs 4 Ints 114.3 rating
On pace for- 2496 Yds 9 TDs 6 INts
Let me start by saying- I think Joe is the best QB out of Etling, Jennings, Harris and Burrow. With that said here’s their numbers, this simply isn’t good enough. This should inspire the offensive staff to take a good long hard look at themselves because a lack of a passing offense cost the last HC his job.
2014 Cam Cameron:
Jennings: 48.9% 1611 Yds 11 TDs 7 Ints 118.3 rating
Harris: 55.6% 452 Yds 6 TDs 2 Ints 175 rating
Total: 2063 Yds 17 TDs 9 Ints
2015 Cam Cameron:
Harris: 53.8% 2165 Yds 13 TDs 6 Ints 130.6 rating
2016 Cam Cameron / Einsminger:
Etling: 59.5% 2123 11 TDs 5 INTs 135.6 rating
Harris: 52% 139 Yds 1 TD 2 INT 95.9 rating
Total: 2262 yds 12 TDs 7 INts
2017 Canada:
Etling 60% 2463 Yds 16 TDs 2 Ints 153 rating
2018 (so far) Einsminger:
Burrow 53.5% 1728 yds 6 TDs 4 Ints 114.3 rating
On pace for- 2496 Yds 9 TDs 6 INts
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 6:28 am
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Posted on 11/6/18 at 7:17 am to Solo Cam
Gosh those are horrible numbers!
Posted on 11/6/18 at 7:20 am to Solo Cam
The fact that Etling was our best QB since Mett says a lot.
Watching Alabamas scheme makes it worse. Tua can make all the throws but man Locksley was giving him easy reads and playcalls all night to those stud receivers.
Watching Alabamas scheme makes it worse. Tua can make all the throws but man Locksley was giving him easy reads and playcalls all night to those stud receivers.
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 7:21 am
Posted on 11/6/18 at 7:29 am to UnAnon
Posted on 11/6/18 at 7:33 am to Solo Cam
quote:
2017 Canada:
Etling 60% 2463 Yds 16 TDs 2 Ints 153 rating
With less than 40% of his offense installed and a weaker QB in a run first offense.
Ensminger is not the answer here if we want to beat Bama moving forward.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 7:38 am to Solo Cam
Our head coach is low IQ and our OC is in over his head. We'll be mediocre as long as they're at the helm.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 7:42 am to Solo Cam
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I think Joe is the best QB out of Etling, Jennings, Harris and Burrow
Based on what exactly?
Hope? Wishful thinking?
Granted, he’s not getting much help but there is not really anything the suggest that he’s better than any of the others you listed.
Etling’s numbers looks like an All American compared to Burrow thus far
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:06 am to Solo Cam
quote:
2015 Cam Cameron:
Harris: 53.8% 2165 Yds 13 TDs 6 Ints 130.6 rating
quote:
2018 (so far) Einsminger:
Burrow 53.5% 1728 yds 6 TDs 4 Ints 114.3 rating
On pace for- 2496 Yds 9 TDs 6 INts
So Harris was better than Burrow. I wouldn't argue that. What I don't understand is all the excuses people make for Burrow and all the hate people have for Harris.
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 8:07 am
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:10 am to Solo Cam
So Harris, Jennings and Etling are all better than Burrow and Cameron and Canada are better coaches than SE. Never saw this coming.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:12 am to Eriq Killmonger
People like that Burrow is “tough”. People thought Harris pouted. That’s the difference.
Both suck
Both suck
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:13 am to memphis tiger
quote:Just an eye test. He looks more accurate than Harris and Jennings.
Based on what exactly?
He’s actually very similar to Etling. Decent accuracy, decent mobility, ok arm and poor deepball accuracy.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:18 am to DBG
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People like that Burrow is “tough”. People thought Harris pouted. That’s the difference.
ok
quote:
Both suck
I wouldn't say that. I am more of the belief that LSU has sucked donkey dick at developing QBs over the last fricking decade in addition to running out dated shitty offenses.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:20 am to Solo Cam
quote:
Just an eye test. He looks more accurate than Harris and Jennings.
Go get your eyes check, because the stats say otherwise.
quote:
He’s actually very similar to Etling. Decent accuracy, decent mobility, ok arm and poor deepball accuracy.
His accuracy ain't shite compared to Etling's last season at LSU.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:22 am to Eriq Killmonger
I’m just telling you what the difference to the fans is. Obviously is silly.
And yea, both suck within the context of the offenses they played in. But most QBs would suck.
And yea, both suck within the context of the offenses they played in. But most QBs would suck.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:38 am to Eriq Killmonger
quote:That’s the entire point of the post. He’s talented but coaching is holding us back. New year, same LSU.
Go get your eyes check, because the stats say otherwise.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:41 am to Solo Cam
Aside from slants Ensminger's offense doesn't seem to really focus on getting rid of the ball quickly. Everything seems to be 15 yards downfield.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:44 am to Solo Cam
LSU has not cracked the top-65 in passing for the past 4 years, and the school has only been in the top-65 once since 2009: 2013.
LSU seems content to win 9-10 games by running the ball and playing defense.
It's just the same 'ole same 'ole each and every year.
LSU seems content to win 9-10 games by running the ball and playing defense.
It's just the same 'ole same 'ole each and every year.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:48 am to Solo Cam
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After a few games, I remember some saying they don't see the upgrade in QB play. Do you see it yet?- GoldenBoy
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Literally nobody, and I mean nobody has ever debated this.-GeauxTigersNation
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LOL you got tore up in Burrow's house Saturday. No LSU fan at this point thinks Etling>Burrow.-thenastyD
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but...yeah, Burrow is a gamer who towers over anything Etling did at lsu.-jptiger2009
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Burrow woukd be better than etling if he had an amputated right arm- PenguinPubes
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Who the frick thought this? Burrow is and has been better then etling since he got to campus-Justice
I was the voice of reason though, but Lester didnt think so
Plenty more gems to pick through
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Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:50 am to Solo Cam
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Just an eye test
I’m not sure. I think Etling was underrated by fans. Sure he was nowhere close to great, at best he was good enough. But Joe has just been bad. And I really like he kid and think he has potential to be better than Etling, but right now he just isn’t.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:55 am to RuLSU
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It's just the same 'ole same 'ole each and every year.
I said yesterday that this is the same old song and dance of miles' offense.
When SE took over he changed it up by not running the same 10 plays and used more shotgun sets. This forced teams to back off and play honest..."set RECORDS" against piss poor 90th or worse defenses and stuffed against top ranked.
Now, teams have a ton of tape on SE and know this is the same shite sandwich offense, only wrinkle being run out of shotgun. Same passing tree (deep down sidelines and majority of passes outside hash), will not attack middle and relies on between tackle running. same offense, different base formation, that is all. how people don't realize this is beyond me. Go look at SE offense after he took over in 2016, what is the difference?
If CEO wants to get his second contract, he better make a change in 2 places. first being the OC, go get a true OC. Second, time to move on from moffit. Players are not stronger and explosive anymore. Yes, we need to get better in the trenches but talent isn't the problem, strength and explosiveness is.
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 8:59 am
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