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Defensive talent is the biggest issue

Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:28 am
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2710 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:28 am
Across the whole defense (especially the secondary) there is a massive downgrade from LSU teams of the past. House may need to be replaced, but any good DC would struggle with this bunch.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
25102 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:29 am to
We don’t have bottom CFB level talent… yet here are,eating scraps off the floor
Posted by AllenTXTiger
Dallas, TX Area
Member since Oct 2004
598 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:29 am to
As much as others are in denial and living off the ghost of LSU defenses of old, you are spot on.

Never been a negatiger or will be, just a realist. The talent level is not up to LSU standards nor is the defensive coaching!
This post was edited on 11/6/23 at 8:33 am
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
35464 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:30 am to
Yea I bet ole miss is littered with 5 star defensive talent…

You’re wrong
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
12760 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:31 am to
quote:

Across the whole defense (especially the secondary) there is a massive downgrade from LSU teams of the past.


No shite

quote:

House may need to be replaced, but any good DC would struggle with this bunch.


He needs to go, but everyone is ignoring the personnel decisions every week. Not putting Weeks in to spy Milroe in the 2nd half is baffling.
Posted by AllenTXTiger
Dallas, TX Area
Member since Oct 2004
598 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:31 am to
Also factual, bstew3006.
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2710 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:35 am to
quote:

Yea I bet ole miss is littered with 5 star defensive talent… You’re wrong

Incorrect, Ole Miss has a bad defense. Max Johnson put up 35. They are out scoring teams. If Hilton makes that catch we score in the fifties and beat them.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5049 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:36 am to
You don't have the horses to be a top 25 defense. You certainly aren't so devoid of talent that you're a 100 or worse defense though.
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
22688 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:36 am to
Not True.


This weekend we used a bunch of freshman to shut down Bama's receivers, and it worked.

The issue was scheme. We spied Milroe a grand total of 1 time. On the first drive and then it never happened again.

We treated Milroe as if he was Tom Brady.

Our LBs were 12 yards deep in zone every 3rd down.

That's not a talent issue, its a scheme issue and Matt House is the problem
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
111658 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:37 am to
A new DC along with not being cheap when purchasing recruits and transfers needs to happen.
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
35464 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:39 am to
Ole miss held bama to 24. Milroe had 28 yards on 16 carries.


You think they have better talent than lsu?
Posted by Slpdoc
Member since Sep 2021
819 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:39 am to
South Florida held Alabama to 17. Is our talent worse than theirs?
This post was edited on 11/6/23 at 8:45 am
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
22688 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:39 am to
quote:

You don't have the horses to be a top 25 defense. You certainly aren't so devoid of talent that you're a 100 or worse defense though.





The fact is, we dont even need a top 25 defense. we need a top 50. Think of how many teams there are in the NCAA. There is no reason that we should be in the 100s.

With a top 50 defense we are undefeated right now
Posted by Doby
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2014
1853 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:41 am to
Some of you will argue a narrative to avoid the real issue, coaching. This will continue to be an issue until BK gets his head out of his arse and Woodward forces a defensive coaching change.

This defense should have improved from the very least within its fundamentals. It’s glaring.
Posted by onepiecemayne
Member since Nov 2023
318 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:42 am to
These are 4 star recruits that come to LSU to play defense. No way it's a talent issue. Kelly thought he could get away with no DL coach and now they are paying for it.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5049 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:44 am to
quote:

The fact is, we dont even need a top 25 defense. we need a top 50. Think of how many teams there are in the NCAA. There is no reason that we should be in the 100s.

With a top 50 defense we are undefeated right now



Yep. Just think about how damn good your offense is that your defense allowed Alabama to convert on 80% of their third downs, meaning they extended drives and were able to chew massive amounts of clock, and you still rolled up almost 500 yards and 28 pts. And you only had your starter for 3 quarters.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
58974 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:45 am to
Defensive talent doesn’t impact defended dropping into a 20 yard deep coverage on 3rd and 10


Look, we have some talent deficits. But any D1 football player could make a play or two if put in position.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5049 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:45 am to
quote:

Kelly thought he could get away with no DL coach and now they are paying for it.



I don't think that's a fair assessment. I'm sure BK knows the d line is behind the 8 ball but it was just a massively unfortunate circumstance that happened to manifest at a terrible time on the calendar.
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4154 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:46 am to
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but any good DC would struggle with this bunch.
I can get on board with this statement but the lack of improvement is still a concern.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5049 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:47 am to
quote:

Some of you will argue a narrative to avoid the real issue, coaching. This will continue to be an issue until BK gets his head out of his arse and Woodward forces a defensive coaching change.

This defense should have improved from the very least within its fundamentals. It’s glaring.



I don't think Woodward or Kelly have their head in the sand and I fully expect defensive changes to come in a few weeks. Hell, when the beat writers for ON3 and 24/7 are all outright saying there will be changes at the end of the year, you know they're coming.
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