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What are the next steps of progression for LSU quarterback Jayden Daniels?
Posted on 9/20/22 at 8:40 am
Posted on 9/20/22 at 8:40 am
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Through three games Daniels has been electric but those moments have also come with spouts of inaccuracy or missing open receivers in his progression. Daniels has rushed for 225 yards and two touchdowns in these three games, far on pace to surpass his previous rushing total in a season of 710 just last year.
He’s also completed 69.5% of his passes for 556 yards and six touchdowns to open the year and has looked comfortable as a whole when electing to pass.
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“When we evaluate when he runs, we want to see if it was within the progression and it was really good coverage, or maybe that play wasn’t great against this coverage. Or we got beat at a particular position and he got flushed versus you turn down a potential high-low read and you took off. That’s what we’re trying to evaluate so it’s a little bit of both,” Kelly said.
“I think there’s still growth there where he can stay a little bit more patient and locked in on the progression and there are those really dynamic runs where there wasn’t anything there. You want to be careful where you go ‘Hey, you’re running too much’ and then when he needs to be dynamic, he’s not.”
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Posted on 9/20/22 at 8:46 am to Captain Crown
He does not appear comfortable passing to me. He cannot see the field.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:01 am to White Tiger
He throws short high % passes, and that helps average.
But when he has to hit a moving target near sidelines, back shoulder throws, etc (basically throws that demand real accuracy and touch) he misses them completely.
You could see Kelly yelling at him several times the other night.
But when he has to hit a moving target near sidelines, back shoulder throws, etc (basically throws that demand real accuracy and touch) he misses them completely.
You could see Kelly yelling at him several times the other night.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:05 am to Captain Crown
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looked comfortable as a whole when electing to pass.
Is this a bee article?
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:11 am to the LSUSaint
quote:Try to contain your glee, Assling.
He throws short high % passes, and that helps average.
But when he has to hit a moving target near sidelines, back shoulder throws, etc (basically throws that demand real accuracy and touch) he misses them completely.
You could see Kelly yelling at him several times the other night.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:11 am to SMD
Yeah, he's not comfortable. Not even close.
He rushes short throws, and usually coming off poor footwork. His mechanics go to shite if he senses any kind of urgency.
The scheme and progressions are there, he just can't execute them well so far.
He rushes short throws, and usually coming off poor footwork. His mechanics go to shite if he senses any kind of urgency.
The scheme and progressions are there, he just can't execute them well so far.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:16 am to SMD
Don't go messin with Glenn now
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:23 am to clamdip
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He rushes short throws, and usually coming off poor footwork. His mechanics go to shite if he senses any kind of urgency.
The scheme and progressions are there, he just can't execute them well so far.
For the most part I think his short passing game was good. He was out of synch with Mason Taylor Saturday and threw behind him twice and had another throw that should have led him upfield that went against Taylor's momentum.
I believe JD will continue to progress. He just needs to trust his receivers and be more instinctive on his throws instead of trying aim his passes. His pass protection was much better with the new OL and that should allow him to get more comfortable.
I bet Kelly, Denbrock and Sloan are chomping at the bit knowing that if JD makes that next step as a passer that paired with his running ability, LSU will become a very dangerous team to play.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:23 am to Captain Crown
He doesn’t throw receivers open. If they aren’t WIDE open, he doesn’t consider them open. That can be taught, but not always. I hope it can be in his case.
I’m not saying I ever expect another Burrow, but he is an example of a QB that did this at an elite level. Receivers didn’t always look open, he threw them open.
I’m happier with JD than most, but he does need to progress to beat the better SEC teams.
I’m not saying I ever expect another Burrow, but he is an example of a QB that did this at an elite level. Receivers didn’t always look open, he threw them open.
I’m happier with JD than most, but he does need to progress to beat the better SEC teams.
This post was edited on 9/20/22 at 9:27 am
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:33 am to CatfishJohn
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I’m not saying I ever expect another Burrow, but he is an example of a QB that did this at an alite level. Receivers didn’t always look open, he threw them open.
I'm a big fan of Daniels (I feel like I have to say this every time I say something remotely critical of him, SMH), but you don't have to be Joe Burrow to do this. Like you said, Burrow did it an an elite level, but most good quarterbacks can anticipate whether a receiver will be open before they're actually open.
Either Daniels doesn't always see it (bigger problem), he doesn't trust himself to make the throw, or he doesn't trust the system, the routes and the receivers yet. Hopefully it's either the second or third scenario (or a combination) and if he doesn't totally trust something he won't take it, since he knows he's got a chance at a good gain with his legs.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:35 am to CatfishJohn
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He doesn’t throw receivers open. If they aren’t WIDE open, he doesn’t consider them open. That can be taught, but not always. I hope it can be in his case.
He's not a freshman so it's highly unlikely he'll develop like that now. The ability to throw to spots would already be showing if he had it. I suspect we won't see that from an LSU QB again until Howard has the job.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:38 am to Jwho77
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He's not a freshman so it's highly unlikely he'll develop like that now.
You might be correct, but it's not like he's had stellar coaching in his other 3 years. I'm not giving up hope yet. It's a new system with new coaches and new players. I'm going to give it a little time before making any final determinations.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:39 am to whitefoot
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but you don't have to be Joe Burrow to do this
I know. I basically said that.
I was just trying to explain what I meant with an example people are familiar with.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:43 am to CatfishJohn
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I know. I basically said that.
I knew you knew that. I was just expanding on your point.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:46 am to whitefoot
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You might be correct, but it's not like he's had stellar coaching in his other 3 years. I'm not giving up hope yet. It's a new system with new coaches and new players. I'm going to give it a little time before making any final determinations.
This is why I still think JD will progress. He's going to need to take the top off of defenses otherwise teams are going to load the box, walk safeties down and take away the short passing game and JD's run lanes. This is a good week to work on that. Even if we have a few 3 and outs I hope the coaches keep him focused on staying in the pocket and working his progressions with run as a last resort. It will pay off as the schedule gets tougher.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:59 am to Damathe
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Try to contain your glee, Assling
I can't. I hated the daniels move from day 1.
Yeah yeah...he can run etc.
But it means we won't grow with a qb learning and becoming great. That's how teams get great at the position.
Bringing in a 1 or 2 year patch, sets the position back. Kelly brought him in as a ND recruit. ND runs a way way more conservative offense than the SEC does.
That running shite won't work against the big dogs, whose spy will be just as athletic as Daniels.
Accurate intelligent throws downfield make a successful SEC qb.
JB was special as anyone ever. He ran when he needed to, not when he wanted to. It very seldom was his plan till he earned the respect passing that made teams drop everyone in pass coverage.
Anyway, won't happen with Daniels against a real team..FL St, Miss St suck balls.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 10:01 am to the LSUSaint
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I can't. I hated the daniels move from day 1.
At least you're honest and consistent about it.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 10:53 am to the LSUSaint
I do not understand why anyone thinks LSU has an effective passing game. It doesn't. 5.7 yds/att is anemic.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 10:58 am to BayouCowboy
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if JD makes that next step as a passer that paired with his running ability, LSU will become a very dangerous team to play.
I agree with this. LSU could contend for the west if this happens.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 10:59 am to the LSUSaint
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ND runs a way way more conservative offense than the SEC does.
WTF! Georgia just won a national title with a pretty conservative offense and a great defense and looks to be on track to get there again.
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That running shite won't work against the big dogs, whose spy will be just as athletic as Daniels.
yeh ok...its much better to have a statue in the pocket that can get lit up on blitzes or have to throw in ocverage to avoid sacks
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