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re: Which has the better football program: A&M or Mizzou?
Posted on 10/9/11 at 9:56 pm to TK421
Posted on 10/9/11 at 9:56 pm to TK421
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Which was in progress the prior year. Stop with the lies and excuses. A&M was looking out for number 1 and wanted some more money. End of story.
The Big 12 schools had agreed last year that the Whorns network would carry one non-conference game per year. After that we found out that ESPN would be in charge of the network. After that ESPN started pushing for a 2nd game. After that ESPN started pushing to air high school football games. When we took our complaints to the conference, Dan Beebe finally agreed to a one year ban on high school football. He also told us that the conference would be fine without us.
The LHN isn't showing high school games because the University Interscholastic League (UIL) which controls high schools sports in Texas won't allow them to and because the NCAA said no. The conference didn't help us one goddamn bit. Even after all of this, they kept pushing for high school highlights. We finally had enough and left. So did OU, only the Pac 12 turned them down because the didn't want OSU.
We stood to make $20 million per year in the Big 12 in annual football TV money. I suspect in short term we will lose money although we will all be swimming in money once the SEC network comes around.
You are either a troll or one very ignorant SOB.
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Posted on 10/9/11 at 10:00 pm to daboman of Aggieland
What whiny little bitch. I'm not saying it's a bad thing that you are looking out for yourselves, but blaming other people for your choice to change conferences is shameful. Did you transfer schools because a bully took your lunch money?
Posted on 10/9/11 at 10:03 pm to TK421
It seems to me that a whiny bitch would stay in the conference. We had enough and left. Are Nebraska whiny bitches for leaving? Texas' arrogance drove them away too, you know.
Posted on 10/9/11 at 10:06 pm to daboman of Aggieland
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It seems to me that a whiny bitch would stay in the conference.
Yeah, just like the little bitches don't take their ball and go home.
The excuses keep flying! quote:
We had enough and left.
Yeah, keyboard hero here had a lot to do with it.
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Are Nebraska whiny bitches for leaving?
Meh, they wanted out from the beginning and were never a great fit.
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exas' arrogance drove them away too, you know.
Yeah, I'm sure. Aggies can tell themselves whatever they like, it will never change the truth.
Posted on 10/9/11 at 10:12 pm to TK421
My senior year was the last year of the SWC. Many wanted to look at the SEC at that time. We were blocked from looking out for ourselves.
I view it more as untangling the political mess known as the Big 12. Bevo was blocked from their PAC dream. The Big 12 was a creation of ABC combining a low population conference with a big population state with Texas politicians forcing in teams.
Deloss Dodds PAC 16 dream reignited the A&M dream of the SEC which quieted for a year and then reemerged.
I view it more as untangling the political mess known as the Big 12. Bevo was blocked from their PAC dream. The Big 12 was a creation of ABC combining a low population conference with a big population state with Texas politicians forcing in teams.
Deloss Dodds PAC 16 dream reignited the A&M dream of the SEC which quieted for a year and then reemerged.
This post was edited on 10/9/11 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:06 am to Dr RC
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I agree with this. A&M hasn't won a bowl game in 10 years.
we beat TCU in the 2001 Galleryfurniture.com/Houston/Texas/Meineke Car Care Bowl of Texas Bowl!
Ya don't say? 2011-2001 = 10.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:24 am to TK421
quote:You've bought the Horn propaganda. Sure, the SEC is more money, and A&M wouldn't be making the move if it meant taking a bath financially. But, things did change in the Big XII after Nebraska and Colorado left. First the Horns extract a concession from the conference to allow one home non-conference game on the network, then they go and negotiate a deal with ESPN wherein they agree to provide not one, but TWO games, to work to get the state high school championships on LHN, and ESPN agrees to pay them an outrageous sum of money. Then, having gotten in bed with the Horns, ESPN tries to use its position as first tier rights holder to cut a deal with Fox to rig game selection so that LHN can be assured of a second game (they had planned for it to be Tech, but backed off when the other conference members rebelled at ESPN's plan to do this without the consent of the other school). The conference's handling of these matters made it clear to everyone that there was Texas, and then there was everyone else. A&M had other options and didn't need to stay in a league where they were going to be viewed as second class citizens, and which will only survive as long as it suits the Horns.
Which was in progress the prior year. Stop with the lies and excuses. A&M was looking out for number 1 and wanted some more money. End of story.
BTW: Word is that the Horns are now going to extract a deal from the confernece to provide for THREE games on LHN. Give them an inch, and they will take a mile. Won't be long before they have their own network deal like Notre Dame (who, not coincidentally, they would like to have join the Big XII in some attenuated fashion, so as to further cement the principal that this is a two tier conference).
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:34 am to twk
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Sure, the SEC is more money, and A&M wouldn't be making the move if it meant taking a bath financially.
This is sensible. Everything else in your post just shows just how butthurt you are.
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Won't be long before they have their own network deal like Notre Dame
And that just burns your arse don't it?
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:41 am to twk
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Won't be long before they have their own network deal like Notre Dame
What is this Notre Dame you speak of?
Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:02 pm to relapse98
The desire of a large chunk of alumni to join the SEC has been brewing since @1993. i can only speak for me personally, but it has nothing to do with anything but being part of the best conference in America. The SEC defines what college football is about and I have always wanted to be part of it.
Not real sure where you are getting your info, but we need to get you an ESPN blog ASAP.
Not real sure where you are getting your info, but we need to get you an ESPN blog ASAP.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:13 pm to TK421
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And that just burns your arse don't it?
You reek of closet whorn. Listen, this whole deal boiled down to trust, or lack thereof. No one had a problem with Texas forming their own network. However, when we decided to stay last yr, Texas assured the conf they would only have 1 non-conf game on their network per yr and no high school content.
Fast forward to the signed contract: ESPN is paying them $300mil, and the contract stipulates that Texas do everything it can to get 2-3 games on its network, including conf games, and to show high school games. They try to work a deal with Fox to let games slip to Tier3 behind everyone's back. They push for highlights when the conf and NCAA say no high school games. Now they are trading high school content for 3 games. Their contract also prohibits them from being on any kind of conf network, severely devaluing any potential BigXII Network.
We decided to stay because of a desire to maintain our traditional rivalries. We pushed for equal revenue sharing, which Texas rejected, so we demanded the $20 mil/yr to better our situation. Predictably, Texas breaks their promises and continues to leverage their interests over that of the conf, severely destabilizing it. So we left.
Jealousy and ego doesn't factor into it. We wanted to be in a conference where all members are equal, where all members can be trusted. And yes, we stand to make more money by this move as well, in addition to increasing our visibility by being in the best athletic conference.
Thus, we are now in the SEC. So STFU or GTFO.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:16 pm to StrickAggie06
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Listen, this whole deal boiled down to money, or lack thereof.
FIFY
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No one had a problem with Texas forming their own network.
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Jealousy and ego doesn't factor into it.
Come on man...now you are just lying.
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We wanted to be in a conference where all members are equa
As an LSU fan, I can assure you that A&M will never be an equal in the SEC.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:21 pm to TK421
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TK421
Dumbass. Throughout this thread you have shown how little you know about how things progressed to the point we are now. Time for you to go back to the kids table.
This post was edited on 10/10/11 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:26 pm to GerryDiNardo
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Dumbass.
Calling name now? Run out of arguments I see.
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hroughout this thread you have shown how little you know about how things progressed to the point we are now.
Do all aggies whine this much? Or is it just the aggies that post on this board?
Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:28 pm to TK421
Seriously? Seems like you would be happy, you're getting the reaction you are looking for; some people are actually taking the bait.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:31 pm to OilfieldTrashAg
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Seriously? Seems like you would be happy, you're getting the reaction you are looking for; some people are actually taking the bait.
I'm not intentionally baiting anyone. I'm point out that most of this conference realignment boiled down to money and egos. It's interesting that so many people are trying to argue that point while consistently whining about Texas.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:33 pm to TK421
And thank you for proving my point that you are a moron by doing absolutely nothing to refute anything in my post.
Laugh all you want, but the fact is Texas' network was discussed last summer, and everyone was okay with it as it was described at that time. Otherwise, we would have simply taken the SEC invite we already had. Why would we have stayed in a conf to make less $$$ than the SEC, if we had a big problem with Texas' impending network? Stop being a complete idiot for a second and think about it.
You may have us in football for the moment, but we will gladly kick the shite out of LSU in every other sport. Remind me again where LSU placed in the Director's Cup? A&M has placed in the top 10 the past 2 years, 1st in the BigXII both years, and is 2nd in the SEC only to Florida, and not by much. 8 national championships since 2009 in 3 different sports. The majority of our sports programs finished in the Top10 last season. We are more an equal in the SEC now than LSU is, and don't even officially join the conference until July. Try again, whorn lover.
Laugh all you want, but the fact is Texas' network was discussed last summer, and everyone was okay with it as it was described at that time. Otherwise, we would have simply taken the SEC invite we already had. Why would we have stayed in a conf to make less $$$ than the SEC, if we had a big problem with Texas' impending network? Stop being a complete idiot for a second and think about it.
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As an LSU fan, I can assure you that A&M will never be an equal in the SEC.
You may have us in football for the moment, but we will gladly kick the shite out of LSU in every other sport. Remind me again where LSU placed in the Director's Cup? A&M has placed in the top 10 the past 2 years, 1st in the BigXII both years, and is 2nd in the SEC only to Florida, and not by much. 8 national championships since 2009 in 3 different sports. The majority of our sports programs finished in the Top10 last season. We are more an equal in the SEC now than LSU is, and don't even officially join the conference until July. Try again, whorn lover.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:36 pm to StrickAggie06
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ut we will gladly kick the shite out of LSU in every other sport
Baseball?
Seriously Admins, this is ban worthy. You know brings up sports other than football? Fans of shitty football teams. Congrats on your football mediocrity and all!
Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:37 pm to Round Rock Tiger
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Ya don't say? 2011-2001 = 10.
sarcastic enthusiasm brah
Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:43 pm to StrickAggie06
Money is always a factor, but to say it was the driving force in this decision is simply incorrect. You have no idea how much heat our admin took last summer for blinking at the 11th hour. This was a move that the alumni overwhelmingly desired; had our leadership screwed this up for a THIRD time (1994, 2010, & 2011) they would have seriously angered a large group of alumni. I suppose, from that angle, you could argue it was about money as the alumni are the donors and angry alumni dont donate large sums of money.
This is an interesting discussion, i find your passive-aggressive manner mildly entertaining.
This is an interesting discussion, i find your passive-aggressive manner mildly entertaining.
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