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re: When the dust settles, I hope every FBS team has a chance to win the title
Posted on 9/23/11 at 4:09 pm to HooDooWitch
Posted on 9/23/11 at 4:09 pm to HooDooWitch
quote:good point...I think the independents would have to fight for an at-large bid.
For example an improved Notre Dame or an independent Texas.
Assume 8 teams in playoff and one is from small conference...if there are six major conferences, then six conference champions make playoffs and one team could get at-large bid...eg, if in top 8 of BCS poll. Also, you make it so that each of the six conference champions would have to be at least a certain rank in the BCS rankings to be eligible.
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Posted on 9/23/11 at 4:10 pm to Geecubed
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Can this happen, then allow better teams that aren't in these 64 to be promoted if they are in the top 8 of the lower bracket, and the same for the bottom two teams of each superconference? Treat the conferences like the EPL?
Sounds great in theory, i'd love it.. but it just wouldn't work with schools. You have to have stability. If these were just football teams we were talking about it'd be no problem.
Posted on 9/23/11 at 4:13 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
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Sounds great in theory, i'd love it.. but it just wouldn't work with schools. You have to have stability. If these were just football teams we were talking about it'd be no problem.
I think that the NCAA could keep the football separate from the other sports. That way the other sports would stay in whatever the old conferences were. Also, maybe make it that you have to end up in the bottom two for two years straight, and the same for the winners of the lower division.
Posted on 9/23/11 at 4:47 pm to molsusports
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I absolutely do not want an expanded playoff like other major sports
THIS.
I do not want anything that might make the regular season mean less.
Posted on 9/23/11 at 4:55 pm to Chicken
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you make it so that each of the six conference champions would have to be at least a certain rank in the BCS rankings to be eligible.
I think you have to give the top conference champion a shot automatically or it defeats the playoff system.
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one team could get at-large bid...eg, if in top 8 of BCS poll
I like this. If not in top eight of BCS this spot goes to the highest ranked school from super conferences.
Posted on 9/23/11 at 5:05 pm to Big Kat
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I'm the last guy to argue for tu in anything. But to say TCU deserved to go to the title game over the big XII champ is insane. Texas beat OU, Ok St, Texas A&M and Nebraska. TCU beat Utah??
Pre-Big 12 championship, the difference was marginal. I agree that after the win they deserved it, though Colt McCoy's stupidity almost cost them that game and a video replay putting a second back on saved their asses (and if I remember correctly the review of that play isn't actually allowed by Big 12 bylaws--I read that on a blog I think, so it may not be true).
For the record, TCU had a top 15 win against Utah (College Gameday), a top 15 win against BYU (College Gameday), and a road win against Clemson. Texas had two ranked wins that year also and a comparable opponent win-loss record (see the link I posted above).
This post was edited on 9/23/11 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 9/23/11 at 5:11 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
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FWIW watch the replay.. the ball clearly goes out of bounds @ around 2 seconds left.
Did I say it didn't? No, I simply said it needed that time put back on to have a shot at kicking the FG.
I'm not wasting the time to look up the video, but I'm pretty sure it hits the rail at almost exactly when the clock ticks down to the 1 second, from memory.
Posted on 9/23/11 at 5:14 pm to Dr RC
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none? what's the attendance at those D2 and D3 playoff games?
and that is an issue - there are BCS bowl games where attendance has been poor (even with plenty of time for fans to travel and only one end of season game for them to attend)
There is probably more hassle arranging travel for the LSU band than there is for teams in D2 and D3
if schools and fans in every single other division of college football can make it work then there is no good reason the D1A schools can't.
I'm sorry but if your biggest worry is potential attendance issues (which most bowls already have) or the ability to bring a band well that's just not good enough to say no to a playoff.
my biggest issue is pretty much i hate the idea of an extended playoff - esp if it meant three consecutive weeks of bowl games in unpredictable locations and destroys a lot of the college experience in teh regular season
Posted on 9/23/11 at 5:30 pm to molsusports
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bowl games in unpredictable locations
How may bowl games have you gone to so far?
Doesn't matter to me because they all get viewed in one of two places, my couch or a bar.
Posted on 9/23/11 at 5:40 pm to HooDooWitch
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How may bowl games have you gone to so far?
several
part of the college game experience I value more than NFL etc is the relationship between teh college fans in teh stadium and the sport on the field - I just think it is different and value that difference
Posted on 9/23/11 at 5:56 pm to Chicken
I agree
If C-USA, Mountain West, and WCC teams are left out I think that would really really suck.
If C-USA, Mountain West, and WCC teams are left out I think that would really really suck.
Posted on 9/23/11 at 7:59 pm to molsusports
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part of the college game experience I value more than NFL etc is the relationship between teh college fans in teh stadium and the sport on the field - I just think it is different and value that difference
assuming a playoff system was put in place would you prefer the games to be played at the team with the better records home field over a preset Nuetral location like Dallas or New Orleans?
Posted on 9/23/11 at 8:13 pm to Chicken
Something I was thinking about, regarfing the idea for a 8-team playoff that helps preserve the desire to get the best teams in is to seed it a little differently. with 6 BCS conferences, you don't necessarily have to include the conference champions.
Take the top four conference champions by BCS rankings. Then the next 4 spots go to:
5-6 to any BCS conference champion remaining ranked in the top 12. If one or both of the other two aren't top 12, they go to the bowl game that didn't get the playoffs that year. Otherwise just plug in the remaining teams ranked in the top 8, seeded in order of their rank. So hypothetically this year (based on current AP poll):
1. Oklahoma
2. LSU
3. Stanford
4. Wisconsin
5. Florida St
6. Alabama
7. Boise St
8. Oklahoma St
No limit on # teams per conference. So the Big East champion would be in the January 1 non-playoff bowl game against maybe Oregon or whomever.
Take the top four conference champions by BCS rankings. Then the next 4 spots go to:
5-6 to any BCS conference champion remaining ranked in the top 12. If one or both of the other two aren't top 12, they go to the bowl game that didn't get the playoffs that year. Otherwise just plug in the remaining teams ranked in the top 8, seeded in order of their rank. So hypothetically this year (based on current AP poll):
1. Oklahoma
2. LSU
3. Stanford
4. Wisconsin
5. Florida St
6. Alabama
7. Boise St
8. Oklahoma St
No limit on # teams per conference. So the Big East champion would be in the January 1 non-playoff bowl game against maybe Oregon or whomever.
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