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re: West Virginia? Possible SEC East addition?

Posted on 9/6/11 at 8:57 pm to
Posted by TheFolker
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Posted on 9/6/11 at 8:57 pm to
West Virginia
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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Posted on 9/6/11 at 8:58 pm to
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And you expand your territory.
its about adding TV markets, not surrounding state schools
Posted by Quidam65
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Posted on 9/6/11 at 8:59 pm to
But unless you expand your territory you're not going to add new markets. Adding FSU, Clemson, or Georgia Tech doesn't bring the SEC any markets it doesn't already have.

Again my first choice is VT because of the possibility of the DC market. NC State is #2 since the Charlotte and Research Triangle markets are fast-growing. WVU is at #3.
This post was edited on 9/6/11 at 9:02 pm
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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Posted on 9/6/11 at 9:03 pm to
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mizzou
another team I don't want.
why not? they have alot to offer. 2 new media markets(st louis, kansas city), above average football team, good academics, regional fit.


i dont know about yall, but i dont want to add 4 more football powerhouses. an average/ above average football program is what im looking for, assuming the bring something else to the table. we are splitting up conference titles enough as it is, the last thing we need is a revitalized florida st, OU, UT, and ohio st to come in and diluting that number even further....
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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Posted on 9/6/11 at 9:05 pm to
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Again my first choice is VT because of the possibility of the DC market
they dont deliver the DC media market. its a pro sports town who sees blacksburg as a little town in the SW part of the state. they deliver DC about as much as tulane does louisiana eyeballs
This post was edited on 9/6/11 at 9:06 pm
Posted by Quidam65
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Posted on 9/6/11 at 9:13 pm to
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i dont know about yall, but i dont want to add 4 more football powerhouses. an average/ above average football program is what im looking for, assuming the bring something else to the table.


I agree with this.

The only issue I have with Mizzou is that they want to be in the B1G so bad, if they joined the SEC how quickly would they be looking to leave? (If you think the criticism of TCU jumping conferences is bad...)

Here are my picks for new adds, all of which are in new states:
1. Virginia Tech
2. North Carolina State
3. West Virginia
4. Oklahoma State
5. Missouri

If some posters are right about 20-team conferences being the norm, grab all five and you're now at 18. (Plus five more new states.)

(We may have to rename the Southeastern Conference as the "Sports Excellence Conference", at least we can keep our logo!)
Posted by Quidam65
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Posted on 9/6/11 at 9:14 pm to
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they dont deliver the DC media market. its a pro sports town who sees blacksburg as a little town in the SW part of the state. they deliver DC about as much as tulane does louisiana eyeballs


And Mizzou delivers St. Louis and KC?
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
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Posted on 9/6/11 at 9:17 pm to
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And Mizzou delivers St. Louis and KC?


Why, yes, it does....

Plus, you have St. Louis as a site for football and basketball championship site.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/6/11 at 9:20 pm to
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the only issue I have with Mizzou is that they want to be in the B1G so bad, if they joined the SEC how quickly would they be looking to leave?
i think they are culturally more similar to B1G country- but i think they want most is equality and stability. theyve probably thought their life raft would always come from the north. i think jump at our offer and be happy
Posted by HooDooWitch
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Posted on 9/6/11 at 9:22 pm to
We could just invite the babe in the pic and give her an LSU Tshirt
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 9/6/11 at 9:27 pm to
Please God not Missouri. That would mean no auburn in the west. Awful trade off.
This post was edited on 9/6/11 at 9:28 pm
Posted by Quidam65
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Posted on 9/6/11 at 9:40 pm to
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Why, yes, it does....


No it doesn't. STL and KC are pro sports towns, especially STL which has more interest in baseball than anything else. I have relatives living south of STL, I know what is big up there.

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Plus, you have St. Louis as a site for football and basketball championship site.


People think NOLA is dangerous? It's utopia compared to STL.
Posted by RunningBlake
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/6/11 at 9:46 pm to
Mizzou has the TV markets, the alums, the facilities, the academics. They have also shown to be competitive in football and basketball.

WVU is not a legit comparison.
Posted by Quidam65
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Posted on 9/6/11 at 9:56 pm to
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They have also shown to be competitive in football


Competitive in the (former) Big 12 North = competitive in the WAC before Boise State left.

All Mizzou had to do was beat Nebraska, which most of the time they didn't.

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and basketball


You mean the team that was so good their coach left for Arkansas?

If Mizzou comes fine. But right now I'd put their athletics around that of Georgia. And I probably should go ahead and apologize to Dawg fans for the comparison.
This post was edited on 9/6/11 at 9:57 pm
Posted by WoodlandsAg07
Where Our Stadiums Drop the Top, TX
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Posted on 9/6/11 at 9:59 pm to
WVU's football stacks right up with Mizzou in my opinion, and they've been clearly superior in basketball recently with a Final Four and one of the biggest names coaching in college.
Posted by athletemed
The Woodlands, Texas
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/6/11 at 9:59 pm to
Im always up for a good couch burning.....
Posted by WoodlandsAg07
Where Our Stadiums Drop the Top, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/6/11 at 10:00 pm to
Would give the Vols a run for their money?
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
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Posted on 9/6/11 at 10:05 pm to
I could see WVU as a 15th or 16th team, not a 13th or 14th.

If the Pac 12 or the Big Ten go to 16, the SEC will have to respond in kind. I see it as:

13-TAMU
14-Va. Tech
15-WVU
16-Mizzou, if they don't goto the Big Ten, or NC State if all else fails.



Posted by athletemed
The Woodlands, Texas
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/6/11 at 10:08 pm to
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Would give the Vols a run for their money?


they ARE much better at bring out the torches and pitchforks..
Posted by LightsOut10
Washington, DC
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/6/11 at 11:16 pm to
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they ARE much better at bring out the torches and pitchforks..



The SEC is already a national conference. They're routinely on TV sets across the entire country. This isn't about adding any particular TV market, because you already have them all.

I think we have the huge advantage over Mizzou because we're a much more national brand. Our alumni base stretches up from Philly, Baltimore and DC down through Charlotte and Atlanta. We've had some of the highest rated ESPN games of all time. Plus, our fanbase is borderline retarded...a much better fit than the wannabe blue bloods of Missouri.
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