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re: So who is the biggest loser
Posted on 6/16/10 at 9:00 am to Ghostfacedistiller
Posted on 6/16/10 at 9:00 am to Ghostfacedistiller
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Disagree, they could have been a HUGE winner but they will end up with a net gain. Their big loss happened last week when their stallion got his balls detached for 2-4 years.
Dude, they're not detached, it's just shrinkage. We were in the pool.
Don't write off those Big 12 schools to the PAC and A&M to the SEC just yet. I have a feeling if that TV money doesn't manifest itself, there will be mass defections to where all parties can actually MAKE money.
This post was edited on 6/16/10 at 9:12 am
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Posted on 6/16/10 at 9:10 am to rickyh
I think that when it's all over, the MWC will be the biggest loser.
Posted on 6/16/10 at 11:32 am to rickyh
How is Missouri the big loser? They didn't get invited to the Big 12 so they were lucky as hell that the rest of the teams in the Big 12 didn't bolt to the Pac or they would be totally screwed. I guess they were a loser in the sense that they were not asked to be in the Big 10 but they are damn lucky the rest of the expansion talks didn't happen.
Utah is huge winner, and expansion for Pac is good for them. But USC sanctions for that conference kills them.
Texas, well, they could be either winner or loser depending on perspective. They wanted to go to the Pac 10, nobody is disputing that. Had TAMU not forced their hand, they would be in another conference. In the previous setting of the Big 12, Texas could have still had their own network and more money. So that's why this seems like a loss. If the whole time Texas wanted to stay in the Big 12, they wouldn't have done everything in their power to go to the Pac. So that's why I'm calling bullsh1t on the money that is being thrown around in the Big 12.
Utah is huge winner, and expansion for Pac is good for them. But USC sanctions for that conference kills them.
Texas, well, they could be either winner or loser depending on perspective. They wanted to go to the Pac 10, nobody is disputing that. Had TAMU not forced their hand, they would be in another conference. In the previous setting of the Big 12, Texas could have still had their own network and more money. So that's why this seems like a loss. If the whole time Texas wanted to stay in the Big 12, they wouldn't have done everything in their power to go to the Pac. So that's why I'm calling bullsh1t on the money that is being thrown around in the Big 12.
Posted on 6/16/10 at 11:50 am to Tiger Authority
If Utah goes to the PAC 10, USC sanctions can open up a shot at a NC Game for them.
Posted on 6/16/10 at 11:54 am to Sophandros
CU...
they freaked out and left in order to beat baylor thinking everyone else would follow and the big 12 would die.
No one followed and now the near bankrupt AD has to pay $20 million or so to the big 12.
they freaked out and left in order to beat baylor thinking everyone else would follow and the big 12 would die.
No one followed and now the near bankrupt AD has to pay $20 million or so to the big 12.
Posted on 6/16/10 at 12:24 pm to rickyh
aTm
Posted on 6/16/10 at 1:52 pm to CoonassatTEXAS
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CU...
they freaked out and left in order to beat baylor thinking everyone else would follow and the big 12 would die.
No one followed and now the near bankrupt AD has to pay $20 million or so to the big 12.
I thought it was 9-10 million? I know Nebraska had to do the same. Still think it is a good move for them. Playing in the Pac 10 will benefit them in recruiting. There are a lot of kids from Cali that attend CU for undergrad and with an increased presence in the conference they stand to do better there recruiting wise. As it stood in the Big 12, they never got a decent kid from Texas.
I don't know how anyone would think the Big 12 came out on top in this situation. The top schools are going to benefit at the expense of the faultering bottom half of the league with unequal revenue sharing, and the conference is basically crap at this point.
Posted on 6/16/10 at 2:11 pm to Tiger Authority
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I thought it was 9-10 million? I know Nebraska had to do the same
nebraska is going to try and get out of paying.
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However, Nebraska chancellor Harvey Perlman has suggested that his institution might not owe an exit fee to the Big 12 because of confusing bylaws and his assertion that Nebraska was forced to make the move in its own self interest. If the Big 12 does stay together, it is sure to keep any fees it believes CU and Nebraska owe, which could lead to legal action
Posted on 6/16/10 at 2:59 pm to LSUintheNW
Will the PAC 12 and New Big 10+2 play a conference championship game? Will that leave only Texas and the little sisters and the Big East as the 2 conferences who would have the advantage of not having to play a 13th game?
Posted on 6/16/10 at 3:03 pm to rickyh
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Will the PAC 12 and New Big 10+2 play a conference championship game?
nothing official but I am sure it will happen.
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Will that leave only Texas and the little sisters and the Big East as the 2 conferences who would have the advantage of not having to play a 13th game?
yes.......and it isn't always an advantage imo.
Posted on 6/16/10 at 3:05 pm to LSUintheNW
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Nebraska leaving the Big 12 in 2011 will force the league to redo its conference schedule for one year. It`s possible the league could accomplish that with Colorado, but it would probably prefer to part ways with both schools at the same time. However, if the Big 12 forces Colorado to leave a year early with Nebraska, it could save CU some money in exit fees.
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The other big issue CU must work out is absorbing the cost of any exit fees it ultimately incurs from the Big 12. Big 12 bylaws stipulate that if a school gives two years notice that it is leaving the conference, it forfeits 50 percent of its conference revenue distribution for each of those two years.
That would cost CU between $4.5 and $5 million for each year or somewhere between $9 and $10 million over the next two years.
Colorado and Pac-10 officials said last week they have agreed to a plan in which the Pac-10 would help Colorado absorb the cost of leaving the Big 12. How the plan will work remains to be seen. Bohn said no matter how it is done no money from taxpayers or revenue from the CU campus will be used.
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Nebraska faces the possibility of losing $9 to $10 million in one year because it gave only one year notice. Exit fees rise if less notice than two years notice is given.
However, Nebraska chancellor Harvey Perlman has suggested that his institution might not owe an exit fee to the Big 12 because of confusing bylaws and his assertion that Nebraska was forced to make the move in its own self interest. If the Big 12 does stay together, it is sure to keep any fees it believes CU and Nebraska owe, which could lead to legal action.
They probably do have an argument for self interest - clearly Texas was looking around and if Texas jumped the whole conference was dogmeat
Posted on 6/16/10 at 3:08 pm to molsusports
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They probably do have an argument for self interest - clearly Texas was looking around and if Texas jumped the whole conference was dogmeat
I am sure Colorado will follow their lead. I hope they get out of it.
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