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re: It's becoming crystal clear... Missouri is the 14th team
Posted on 6/13/10 at 3:30 pm to Alahunter
Posted on 6/13/10 at 3:30 pm to Alahunter
SEC North
Arkansas - average
Georgia - above average
Kentucky - suck
Missouri - average
South Carolina - average to below average
Tennessee - average
Vanderbilt - suck
SEC South
Alabama - elite
Auburn - average
Florida - elite
LSU - elite
Mississippi State - suck
Ole Miss - below average
Texas A&M - below average
That SEC North is awful and the SEC South would be the best conference in America by itself.
Arkansas - average
Georgia - above average
Kentucky - suck
Missouri - average
South Carolina - average to below average
Tennessee - average
Vanderbilt - suck
SEC South
Alabama - elite
Auburn - average
Florida - elite
LSU - elite
Mississippi State - suck
Ole Miss - below average
Texas A&M - below average
That SEC North is awful and the SEC South would be the best conference in America by itself.
This post was edited on 6/13/10 at 3:31 pm
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 3:32 pm to Alahunter
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I'd think the powers that be would have more info on what advertising dollars they'd bring in than you or I on this,
i doubt the SEC does
ESPN has an idea, and if they're telling the SEC who to target then i'm sure we have a new, richer deal in place
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Va Tech, although ACC, still averages 10 wins a season. Not mediocre
they will suffer greatly if they go to the SEC
7-8 wins will be the norm
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By expanding originally.
no our model is more recent
expansion doesn't always work. see: every other conference that has expanded to get a title game
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If done wisely, it does. See 1992.
the big12 may dissolve after expansion
the ACC is not that good and has a shitty deal
the SEC worked b/c of our CFB culture, local support, and the love within the conference for the SEC
Posted on 6/13/10 at 3:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i doubt the SEC does
I just think an organization bringing in upwards to 100 mil a year would know something key to a negotiation.
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they will suffer greatly if they go to the SEC
7-8 wins will be the norm
Possibly. Then again, being in the SEC might ramp their recruiting up and they could maintain also.
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expansion doesn't always work. see: every other conference that has expanded to get a title game
Other conferences took crap teams and haven't followed the same plan the SEC instituted in regards to revenue sharing and such. I think that has as much to do with their failures as much as having really shitty teams.
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the SEC worked b/c of our CFB culture, local support, and the love within the conference for the SEC
And I think we could strengthen it with the right teams. Time will tell.
In the end, I think we'll just agree to disagree on it and either way it goes, it'll be a few years before either knows which is the best decision based on results.
Posted on 6/13/10 at 3:41 pm to Alahunter
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being in the SEC might ramp their recruiting up
they've been a dominant program in their conference. they won't get more exposure by falling to 2nd/3rd tier in a new conference
they also don't support their school like most SEC teams do.
Posted on 6/13/10 at 3:43 pm to Alahunter
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Other conferences took crap teams
hello missouri and TAMU
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and haven't followed the same plan the SEC instituted in regards to revenue sharing and such.
tv money isn't as big of a deal as you think. the SEC is about 1/3 tv 2/3 gate/concessions/booster revenue
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And I think we could strengthen it with the right teams.
we can
adding UT/OU does this
adding Mizzou/TAMU? meh
Posted on 6/13/10 at 4:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
I like Mizzou, but unfortunately I agree with SFP on that one.
TAMU, however, is another matter. They aren't perfect now, but the potential is huge. They have the main requirement for the SEC. A large and faithful fan base. With the money they start raking in from the SEC deal, their facilities will improve. Then recruiting will improve. And then they will drop an exorbitant sum of money to buy themselves a good coach. Then they will become competitive. Then Texas starts becoming SEC territory.
UT and OU are obviously takers. If we have to take OSU, Mizzou, or TTech to get the other two... We should do it.
SEC+UT+OU+TAMU will own the football world. That's 10 of the 14 participants of the last 7 BCS championship games and 8 of the 12 BCS champs.
TAMU, however, is another matter. They aren't perfect now, but the potential is huge. They have the main requirement for the SEC. A large and faithful fan base. With the money they start raking in from the SEC deal, their facilities will improve. Then recruiting will improve. And then they will drop an exorbitant sum of money to buy themselves a good coach. Then they will become competitive. Then Texas starts becoming SEC territory.
UT and OU are obviously takers. If we have to take OSU, Mizzou, or TTech to get the other two... We should do it.
SEC+UT+OU+TAMU will own the football world. That's 10 of the 14 participants of the last 7 BCS championship games and 8 of the 12 BCS champs.
Posted on 6/13/10 at 5:25 pm to Rex
I'm in Missouri. Up here the talk is that Mizzou will remain Big 12 and hope they raid another conference or Mizzou is heading MWC.lol. Doubt if the SEC wants Mizzou, it'd be nice but doubt if they'll ask Missouri to join.
Posted on 6/13/10 at 5:29 pm to bayou2003
I think the Big 12 is going to drop to 5 member schools as of the middle or later part of this week
at that point I think MU will face more difficult decisions - do they hold on hoping for an eventual invite to teh Big 10. Or do they end up moving with KU and KSU to the MWC
I'd guess they will look to put off that decision as long as possible hoping for teh Big 10 invite to finally come
at that point I think MU will face more difficult decisions - do they hold on hoping for an eventual invite to teh Big 10. Or do they end up moving with KU and KSU to the MWC
I'd guess they will look to put off that decision as long as possible hoping for teh Big 10 invite to finally come
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