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re: It's becoming crystal clear... Missouri is the 14th team

Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:04 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:04 pm to
i fricking hate VT and the possibility of letting them in the SEC, but they bring more than mizou
Posted by Twelve
New Orleans, LA
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:04 pm to
Agreed. That's why Slive made it known he really wants Texas.
Posted by jsquardjj
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:04 pm to
if they moved both bama and auburn, then the east would have 8 teams and the west only 6. We wouldn't be able to stay at 14, we would have to go to 16.
Posted by CunningLinguist
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:05 pm to
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FSU has a better program and national appeal = tv ratings for ESPN/CBS


Exactly. FSU is the most logical school for expansion. Plus it absolutely locks down Florida as no one gives a shite about Miami except for a vocal minority even when they are good. No one cares about CFB in Missouri. I'd rather see VaTech which isn't a great choice either over Missouri.
Posted by Twelve
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:05 pm to
Move Vandy west then.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:06 pm to
STL has three million people in their metro area, Tallahasee is smaller than BR.

Also, I don't think it's a given that the SEC even pursues an ACC team.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:08 pm to
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It's apparent that they are more worried about tv markets and $$$$ than they are "appeal."

appeal = tv ratings

tv markets are stupid with a cable deal. people in these markets have to watch the games. missouri won't add viewers

FANS are relying on the "tv market" argument for the SEC. inviting TAMU does add some market, but it adds VIEWERS. aggies will watch games in large numbers, and there are a lot of aggies

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Besides, within the last few years Florida St. hasn't been that "appealing" anyway.

they still get national pub and are a 4-0 star away from being sucked off every day by the press

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but the StL market is more than likely bigger than Tallahasee.

and very few people in STL give a flying frick about CFB
Posted by Twelve
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:08 pm to
Sources have said that they aren't pursuing any ACC teams. However, this stuff appears to change daily and I'm sure the SEC is ready to adapt to those changes.
Posted by Twelve
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:09 pm to
No conference or team is off the table at this point. It's too early in the game.
Posted by LSUfannLA
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:09 pm to
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Va Tech would bring 9th and 43rd ranked markets


Is that DC and Richmond?
Posted by Linkovich
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:13 pm to
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i fricking hate VT and the possibility of letting them in the SEC, but they bring more than mizou


I don't hate VT but I hate Mizzou. Lived up there for four years. There's really not that much support for Mizzou athletics around the state. It's a recruiting wasteland for football, they're biggest rivalry game in Kansas, and STL and KC isn't college supporting type towns. Too many storied professional teams to root for.
Posted by LSUfannLA
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:13 pm to
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FSU


To hell with Florida State.

I can't watch them on TV. Having to listen to that Seminole chat song for a whole game drives me crazy.
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:14 pm to
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FSU or Va Tech


+1
Posted by RhodeIslandRed
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:16 pm to
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Is that DC and Richmond?




Texas A&M - Dallas (5), Houston (10), San Antonio (37), Austin (48), Harlingen (87) and Waco (89). Total television households - 6,870,320.

Virginia Tech - Washington, D.C. (9), Norfolk (43), Richmond (58) Roanoke (67). Total television households - 4,060,090.

N.C. State or UNC - Charlotte (24), Raleigh (26) and Greensboro (46). Total television households - 2,947,110.

Mizzou - St. Louis (21), Kansas City (32) and Springfield (74). Total television households - 2,613,550.

Bringing in Texas A&M and VT would add 10,930,410 new television households. Bringing in four of the five teams would add 16,491,070.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476599 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:16 pm to
yea missouri makes no senese

athletics? decent...football sucks

academics? good, nothing worth freaking out over

support? almost non-existent.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476599 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:16 pm to
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Bringing in Texas A&M and VT would add 10,930,410 new television households.

this is irrelevant unless we start out own cable channel

i don't know why people keep bringing it up
Posted by Linkovich
crater lake
Member since Feb 2007
9550 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:17 pm to
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Texas A&M - Dallas (5), Houston (10), San Antonio (37), Austin (48), Harlingen (87) and Waco (89). Total television households - 6,870,320.

Virginia Tech - Washington, D.C. (9), Norfolk (43), Richmond (58) Roanoke (67). Total television households - 4,060,090.

N.C. State or UNC - Charlotte (24), Raleigh (26) and Greensboro (46). Total television households - 2,947,110.

Mizzou - St. Louis (21), Kansas City (32) and Springfield (74). Total television households - 2,613,550.

Bringing in Texas A&M and VT would add 10,930,410 new television households. Bringing in four of the five teams would add 16,491,070.


Damn, nice rundown. I still would take UNC over Va Tech, but I don't want Duke.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299196 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:17 pm to
VT makes more sense to some, Mizzou to others. The truth? Mizzou would be available and fits perfectly with the geographical expansion concept. There isn;t a flaw in it.

Expansion isn't about good football, its about the potential market, and what you can sell to advertisers come time to renew tv contracts.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476599 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:18 pm to
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its about the potential market

then missouri makes no sense
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32814 posts
Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:18 pm to
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To hell with Florida State


this


Let's add Tamu to the west, and either vatech/nc/duke to the east and call it a day
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