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re: It's becoming crystal clear... Missouri is the 14th team

Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by Linkovich
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:19 pm to
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There isn;t a flaw in it.


Yes, there is. See my previous post.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:19 pm to
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Expansion isn't about good football, its about the potential market

also

elite programs typically

1. have support (which = ratings)
2. can gain national appeal (which = ratings)

shite programs almost always have neither. TAMU is an exception, b/c while they suck, they have a loyal fanbase
Posted by LSUfannLA
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:20 pm to
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RhodeIslandRed


Thanks. Good info.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:22 pm to
rex just had to make sure he started a stupid thread on the new board. congrats rex shitty threads on every board in td history
Posted by TenTex
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:25 pm to
I get the feeling and hoping it's A&M and Oklahoma, if not OU then Kansas would be next plus adding NC and Duke to create a much improved TV package for Basketball.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:26 pm to
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then Kansas would be next plus

adding KU isn't a plus for the SEC

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create a much improved TV package for Basketball.

basketball isn't really a revenue-generating sport. a few programs make a little bit of money, but choosing schools for basketball is fricking retarded
Posted by RhodeIslandRed
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:29 pm to
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Thanks. Good info.



Actually each team would bring in more television households than what I listed. There are 210 television markets in the U.S., but I used only the top 100.

LINK
Posted by Linkovich
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:30 pm to
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basketball isn't really a revenue-generating sport. a few programs make a little bit of money, but choosing schools for basketball is fricking retarded


Isn't Kansas Basketball under a full blown federal investigation to boot?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:31 pm to
are they?

for what?
Posted by LSUfannLA
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:31 pm to
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if not OU then Kansas


Ah, I can't get excited about either of those schools.

What does Kansas bring into the conference besides men's basketball?
Posted by Bayou_Bengal@Irving
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:35 pm to
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I get the feeling and hoping it's A&M and Oklahoma


The SEC would love that, a huge imprint into TX. OU has as much fanbase in Dallas as does TX or A&M. Then move Bama & Auburn to the eastern div,
Posted by Linkovich
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:37 pm to
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are they?

for what?


Oh yeah, big time... No thanks, Jayhawks.

ETA: Not to mention one of the guys involved was a KU player's father.
This post was edited on 6/13/10 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:38 pm to
Missouri is a sleeping giant. Nobody thought much of Rutgers only 10 years ago, but now there's even some interest from the Big 10.

Mizzou averages 65,000 fans, anyway. I think they're being unfairly denigrated here. Also, as soon as Mizzou joins the SEC their enthusiasm will increase that much more.

I don't think Va. Tech automatically adds the D.C. area, either. How many people do you know in Wash DC? I know a few. How many are Tech fans? Not any vast portion. Virginia, yes, Tech not so much.

I would prefer Oklahoma, Duke (but only as a package with UNC), and North Carolina... but that's not going to happen.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:44 pm to
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Missouri is a sleeping giant.

no it's not

it's locals don't support CFB and it has no fertile local recruiting grounds

quote:

Nobody thought much of Rutgers only 10 years ago, but now there's even some interest from the Big 10

new jersey has a very, very fertile local recruiting ground

quote:

Also, as soon as Mizzou joins the SEC their enthusiasm will increase that much more.

absolute pie in the sky bullshite
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:46 pm to
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it's locals don't support CFB

Yeah, that's why 65,000 fans show up to watch games against the likes of Iowa State.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:47 pm to
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Missouri is a sleeping giant. Nobody thought much of Rutgers only 10 years ago, but now there's even some interest from the Big 10.



no, texas A&M is a sleeping giant, USF is a sleeping giant, Missouri is a nice second tier football school

For MU to maximize their potential appeal and success they need to end up in the Big 10 (where they will play IL every year) and continue to play KU in KC. Them doing that has actually been a smart move on teh part of MU's administration (to increase mediocre support in STL and KC)

Them coming to teh SEC where they are not guaranteed games vs IL or KU will hurt their regional appeal and them getting their asses handed to them will further erode their fanbase
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:55 pm to
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Yeah, that's why 65,000 fans show up to watch games against the likes of Iowa State

link me to these numbers

i'd be shocked if their stadium (if they own their own stadium) held 65k

#42 in Revenue from a BCS conference
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:59 pm to
here's an old one from 2006

MU averaged 55k in 7 home games

2006

they can hold over 75k on occassion tho - a nice second tier football school IMO - not a sleeping giant

faurot field
Posted by JuniperSprouts
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 12:59 pm to
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yeah, so based on your speculative bullshite, it's now "crystal clear?"


this
Posted by The Virginian
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 6/13/10 at 1:43 pm to
As someone who grew up in the DC suburbs and went to UVA for Undergrad - I would guarantee that adding VT would deliver the DC market. The bars are always packed for VT games. Maryland and UVA just don't have the same pull.

For that matter VT would deliver Richmond as well.

The problem with VT is not that it doesn't add revenue/viewership, but that Virginia politics would attempt to force the SEC to take UVA too (which would be my personal dream scenario). In reality, I just don't think the SEC wants to take both teams.
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