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re: Is anyone else for blowing up the yearly cross divisional SEC "rivalry games"?
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:36 pm to TheDoc
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:36 pm to TheDoc
I just don't get it. People say no to playoffs b/c the bowl games are tradition and make cfb great yet it's ok to do away with great rivalries which are really what makes cfb special.
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:39 pm to TheDoc
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like with ole miss?
Is that a protected cross division rivalry? Is it on the chopping block?
No. Like I said, it's easy for ya'll to sit here and say 'end these games' when you're not a part of them. I don't know where the disdain for UF comes from, but it seems like LSU fans have been sour about the crossover games for years now.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:45 pm to TheDoc
Bama/Tenn and Auburn/UGA being important games with history is the real problem with getting rid of fixed opponents
The easiest fix might seem to be moving both Auburn and Bama to the East ... but then you still have an issue because if you add two teams to the west (e.g. A&M and Missouri) you still need to steal a vandy or kentucky from the east to keep the numbers even
For the sake of mostly irrational speculation let's say you ended up with this:
West:
A&M
Arky
LSU
Missouri
Ole Miss
MSU
Kentucky
East:
Florida
Bama
UGA
Auburn
Tenn
South Carolina
Vandy
The East would be absolutely brutal (Florida, Bama, UGA, Tenn, Auburn) and the West would look fairly weak (LSU would be the only probable top notch team with good but not elite programs like Arky, A&M, and Missouri also probably competing)
From a competitive point of view keeping Bama and Auburn in the west is much more balanced - it just looks very difficult to keep the traditional fixed opponents from opposite divisions (no 9 conference games per year is not a good solution when it costs you home games/money and leads to unequal schedules)
The easiest fix might seem to be moving both Auburn and Bama to the East ... but then you still have an issue because if you add two teams to the west (e.g. A&M and Missouri) you still need to steal a vandy or kentucky from the east to keep the numbers even
For the sake of mostly irrational speculation let's say you ended up with this:
West:
A&M
Arky
LSU
Missouri
Ole Miss
MSU
Kentucky
East:
Florida
Bama
UGA
Auburn
Tenn
South Carolina
Vandy
The East would be absolutely brutal (Florida, Bama, UGA, Tenn, Auburn) and the West would look fairly weak (LSU would be the only probable top notch team with good but not elite programs like Arky, A&M, and Missouri also probably competing)
From a competitive point of view keeping Bama and Auburn in the west is much more balanced - it just looks very difficult to keep the traditional fixed opponents from opposite divisions (no 9 conference games per year is not a good solution when it costs you home games/money and leads to unequal schedules)
This post was edited on 9/19/11 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:46 pm to Topwater Trout
The Doc is talking out of his butt...these historical SEC rivalries aren't going anywhere. I would be pissed if they did.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:48 pm to TheDoc
If the conference stays with an 8 game schedule, I would be in favor of keeping the cross-divisional rivalry only where there is strong mutual interest from both schools, and just letting everyone else rotate. I would imagine that you would just end up with Bama/UT and Auburn/UGA as cross-divisional rivalries. That way, everyone else gets to cycle through conference opponents quicker.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:54 pm to TheDoc
no, rivalries are what make a conference
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:57 pm to Chicken
quote:
The Doc is talking out of his butt.
I do that a lot
quote:
these historical SEC rivalries aren't going anywhere. I would be pissed if they did.
i'd be interested in seeing them being rotated.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:58 pm to twk
quote:
I would imagine that you would just end up with Bama/UT and Auburn/UGA as cross-divisional rivalries. That way, everyone else gets to cycle through conference opponents quicker.
i'd be down with keeping only those two
Posted on 9/19/11 at 4:00 pm to TheDoc
I agree but as an LSU fan I don't think we see it the same way as lets say a Bama fan who likes facing Tennessee every year.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 4:06 pm to AUnite
quote:
According to most Alabama fans, they'd trade the Third Saturday in October for the Iron Bowl. Apparently, TN is their real rival.
as a bama fan, that couldn't be farther from the truth. just a bunch of butt hurt gumps
This post was edited on 9/19/11 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 9/19/11 at 4:09 pm to TheDoc
quote:
i'd be interested in seeing them being rotated.
Who cares about the annual USC-Ark matchup? This is an instance where I would vote for change.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 4:13 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:
just don't get it. People say no to playoffs b/c the bowl games make a shitload of money
fify
Posted on 9/19/11 at 4:14 pm to Chicken
quote:
Joe Alleva is talking out of his butt...these historical SEC rivalries aren't going anywhere.
fify too, cluckster.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 4:15 pm to Ray Penpillage
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Who cares about the annual USC-Ark matchup? This is an instance where I would vote for change.
exactly
Posted on 9/19/11 at 4:17 pm to angryslugs
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as a bama fan, that couldn't be farther from the truth. just a bunch of butt hurt gumps
That's what I said, but they swear up and down (bama fans on the SECr) that TN is y'alls true rival and we mean nothing. Posted on 9/19/11 at 4:20 pm to jcole4lsu
quote:
Joe Alleva
found the link yet?
I can't find it...
Posted on 9/19/11 at 4:21 pm to TheDoc
havent searched. im not sure if its alleva or the chancellor, i just cant remember.
i wish i would have bookmarked all that
i wish i would have bookmarked all that
Posted on 9/19/11 at 4:35 pm to jcole4lsu
Blow up the permanent rivals, and go to a true rotation. Home,off,away,off ad nauseum.
Cons: true rivals play half as much.
Pros: it's fair (UF doesn't have to play LSU annually while Vandy gets to beat up on Ole Miss); no four year layoffs
Let the rivalries develop organically.
Cons: true rivals play half as much.
Pros: it's fair (UF doesn't have to play LSU annually while Vandy gets to beat up on Ole Miss); no four year layoffs
Let the rivalries develop organically.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 5:15 pm to Ray Penpillage
quote:
Blow up the permanent rivals, and go to a true rotation. Home,off,away,off ad nauseum.
Cons: true rivals play half as much.
Pros: it's fair (UF doesn't have to play LSU annually while Vandy gets to beat up on Ole Miss); no four year layoffs
Let the rivalries develop organically.
I like it
LSU would play georgia more, south carolina more, tennessee more ect
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