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re: Difference between Aggies and TU
Posted on 9/29/11 at 10:25 am to fwatts003
Posted on 9/29/11 at 10:25 am to fwatts003
In the 80's and most of the 90's the aggies were very popular with a lot of t-shirt fans.. close to UT and for spells more popular than UT. It was very fashionable in my Dallas suburb high school to cheer for the aggies during the Sherril years.
Win, and you get out of the shadow. Running to another conference won't help unless you win there (good luck with all that).
Win, and you get out of the shadow. Running to another conference won't help unless you win there (good luck with all that).
Posted on 9/29/11 at 1:44 pm to Smoke Ring
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Your post rings truer since Texas passed the 10% legislation, where anyone in the top 10% of their class is guaranteed admission to A&M or UT.
What stops parents from sending their kid to a great school for a while and then pull him/her and place them into a crap school and they shoot to the top of the class rank? Also doesn't seem fair to the rural kid that might graduate with only a dozen or so kids and since he is not #1 or #2 he won't be guaranteed admission. I say make everyone have the same requirements.
Posted on 9/29/11 at 2:02 pm to BayouBengal
My high school class only had 100. Every single kid in my class would have been in the top 10% at any public school.
Posted on 9/29/11 at 2:03 pm to fwatts003
Do Aggie fans actually think they're being funny when they call Texas TU?
Posted on 9/29/11 at 2:04 pm to ohiovol
It's such a childish thing to do. Sounds like an "insult" a 3rd grader might come up with.
Posted on 9/29/11 at 2:17 pm to ohiovol
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Do Aggie fans actually think they're being funny when they call Texas TU?
Hey, to their credit, they came up with the equally head-scratchingly unfunny term "aggy" as a retort (baylor and tech quickly followed suit, of course). To each their own silly little "insults."
If it makes you feel any better, I've always called Tennessee "UT."
Posted on 9/29/11 at 2:23 pm to BayouBengal
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What stops parents from sending their kid to a great school for a while and then pull him/her and place them into a crap school and they shoot to the top of the class rank? Also doesn't seem fair to the rural kid that might graduate with only a dozen or so kids and since he is not #1 or #2 he won't be guaranteed admission. I say make everyone have the same requirements.
its not like everyone in the state is on board with the 10% rule.
You touched on some of the reasons many people hate it.
Posted on 9/29/11 at 2:34 pm to BayouBengal
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What stops parents from sending their kid to a great school for a while and then pull him/her and place them into a crap school and they shoot to the top of the class rank? Also doesn't seem fair to the rural kid that might graduate with only a dozen or so kids and since he is not #1 or #2 he won't be guaranteed admission. I say make everyone have the same requirements.
Actually the opposite problem is causing the most stink. Highland Park is a nationally recognized school district and probably the best ISD in Texas. Chances are that kids who finish just out of the top 10% are light years more prepared for UT than someone from Muleshoe...
It's a weird policy all around but I believe the intent is to make sure UT and A&M are representative of the state and not just a few rich 'burbs in Dallas and Houston.
Posted on 9/29/11 at 2:57 pm to TejasHorn
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What stops parents from sending their kid to a great school for a while and then pull him/her and place them into a crap school and they shoot to the top of the class rank?
Parents do that all of the time. We'd get kids from way better high schools, and they'd shoot straight up to number two or three in the class.
Top 10% rule is stupid as all hell, even if it is to promote kids going to college.
Posted on 9/29/11 at 3:05 pm to TheBloodTypo
Top 10% rule is a great concept on paper, not so much in practice.
I'm just glad I never had to worry about it (I was homeschooled, so the admittance criteria were a little different)
I'm just glad I never had to worry about it (I was homeschooled, so the admittance criteria were a little different)
Posted on 9/29/11 at 8:32 pm to fwatts003
Jesus. Nobody cares that much.
Stop trying so hard.
And Vietnam was a dumbass war.
Stop trying so hard.
And Vietnam was a dumbass war.
Posted on 9/29/11 at 11:32 pm to Tigah in the ATL
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Because the Aggies cheated their arse off in the 1980's with Jackie Sherrill.
Posted on 9/30/11 at 2:53 am to Enormous Codpiece
One will notice that with Texas, it was boosters handing out cash (hard to control).
With Texas A&M, it was assistant coaches handing out cash (neck deep in the cesspool).
Big effin' difference.
It's a culture of corruption in College Station.
With Texas A&M, it was assistant coaches handing out cash (neck deep in the cesspool).
Big effin' difference.
It's a culture of corruption in College Station.
Posted on 9/30/11 at 6:39 am to texashorn
UT and A&M are night and day
Austin is a sweet arse city with hot women, College Station is a cow shite place in the middle of nowhere. UT gets the hot girls from high school, A&M gets the girl who wasnt that popular, about 20-30lbs overweight, and yes you thought in class that if you had a 12 pack you'd nail her.
Been to both schools numerous times, Aggie fans are dilusional and think they belong with the elite, little do they know that nobody outside of Texas cares about them
Austin is a sweet arse city with hot women, College Station is a cow shite place in the middle of nowhere. UT gets the hot girls from high school, A&M gets the girl who wasnt that popular, about 20-30lbs overweight, and yes you thought in class that if you had a 12 pack you'd nail her.
Been to both schools numerous times, Aggie fans are dilusional and think they belong with the elite, little do they know that nobody outside of Texas cares about them
Posted on 9/30/11 at 9:24 am to dallastiger55
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One will notice that with Texas, it was boosters handing out cash (hard to control).
From the article:
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Players said they were sought out by alumni and boosters while at Texas -- they were admitted to closed practices, showed up in the dressing rooms after games and flooded the annual "Meet the Players' barbecue sponsored by boosters in Memorial Stadium.
"The alumni come up to you at practice or in the dressing room with their sons in tow, and I'd say, "Hello, my name is so-and-so,' ' said Scott Bagley, who played at Texas in 1982. "And he'd say, "I know.' I couldn't believe it -- they knew me. In my street clothes. And he'd say, "If there's anything I can ever do for you, let me know.' '
If you wish, I can post the whole article for verification as long as 1) others don't object to this huge feature story taking up a ton of forum space and 2) you're prepared for it making you look worse than you already do.
Posted on 9/30/11 at 5:05 pm to Enormous Codpiece
You can post that Dallas Morning News story to your heart's content. Nothing really came of it, anyway.
Again, two differences between the A&M and Texas probations of the 1980's: lack of institutional control, and "lack of a significant competitive advantage for the University of Texas."
Lack of institutional control for Texas A&M meant that Jackie Sherrill as athletics director and head football coach knew exactly what was going on, failed to stop it, and in effect, condoned it. In fact, Sherrill himself was put on two years' probation.
Philadelphia Inquirer Link
Chronology of 1980's slush fund that led to 1988 probation
Then if that wasn't enough, the Aggies kept on truckin', even with the threat of the death penalty hanging over their head, because, you guessed it, the basketball program got caught, too, for major violations..
But more on the football team, which was placed on probation a second time in 1994:
Los Angeles Times
From that same Los Angeles Times link:
Now this is purely conjecture, but supposedly DeLoss Dodds, that evil University of Texas athletics director, went before the NCAA Infractions Committee and literally begged them not to give A&M the death penalty, because it would have destroyed not only the Aggies, but the entire Southwest Conference (which, of course, happened anyway).
Now stick that in your codpiece and blow it out your ear.
Again, two differences between the A&M and Texas probations of the 1980's: lack of institutional control, and "lack of a significant competitive advantage for the University of Texas."
Lack of institutional control for Texas A&M meant that Jackie Sherrill as athletics director and head football coach knew exactly what was going on, failed to stop it, and in effect, condoned it. In fact, Sherrill himself was put on two years' probation.
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The NCAA said Sherrill lacked control over the university's assistant coaches, athletes and "representatives of its athletic interests," meaning alumni and boosters.
"The university's assistant football coaches, student athletes and representatives of its athletics' interests engaged in a variety of activities that demonstrated that these individuals had little knowledge of or regard for NCAA standards," the NCAA report said.
According to the NCAA, football prospects or their relatives were offered improper inducements, or were dealt with in such a way as to imply that they would receive improper inducements or benefits if the prospect attended Texas A&M.
Philadelphia Inquirer Link
Chronology of 1980's slush fund that led to 1988 probation
Then if that wasn't enough, the Aggies kept on truckin', even with the threat of the death penalty hanging over their head, because, you guessed it, the basketball program got caught, too, for major violations..
But more on the football team, which was placed on probation a second time in 1994:
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Nine Aggie players, including star tailback Greg Hill, were found to have received nearly $18,000 in unearned wages from 1990-92 as a result of their employment at apartment complexes operated by Warren A. Gilbert Jr., a Dallas developer. Gilbert was president of the university's athletic support group--the 12th Man Foundation--at the time the infractions occurred.
The NCAA also found that the university showed a lack of institutional control over its football program by failing to monitor appropriately its jobs program for athletes.
The ruling marks the seventh time that Texas A&M has received public sanctions because of athletic rules violations--a factor in the Committee on Infractions' decision to impose such a lengthy probationary period.
Los Angeles Times
From that same Los Angeles Times link:
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Texas A&M could have received the NCAA's so-called "death penalty" for repeat violators, and, according to the Committee on Infractions' report, the panel gave serious consideration to applying such a sanction.
Now this is purely conjecture, but supposedly DeLoss Dodds, that evil University of Texas athletics director, went before the NCAA Infractions Committee and literally begged them not to give A&M the death penalty, because it would have destroyed not only the Aggies, but the entire Southwest Conference (which, of course, happened anyway).
Now stick that in your codpiece and blow it out your ear.

This post was edited on 9/30/11 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 9/30/11 at 10:11 pm to fwatts003
Instead of crying about Longhorns taking away your manhood Aggies begging to join SEC to run from Texas. If you think you got hammered in the big 12, wait till you play real football next year. SEC should go after Texas Oklahoma and Oklahoma now
Posted on 10/1/11 at 12:12 am to Bayoufightingtiger
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You can post that Dallas Morning News story to your heart's content. Nothing really came of it, anyway.
Nothing, except this....
And as for your claim that Texas coaches were not involved, that it was just the alumni and boosters, there is this assistant coach who was later given the head coaching position:
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Now stick that in your codpiece and blow it out your ear.
You can trot out all the blimps you want and try to tell us what matters and what doesn't matter, but the bottom line is you said the Horn version of cheating was...and I quote..."hard to control", and I owned your arse by pointing out that you were letting these cheaters walk smooth into the dressing room and into closed practices, and that *at least* one assistant coach was involved.
You're really getting your shite pushed in on this thread. I'm not really sure if you can dig your hole any deeper.
This post was edited on 10/1/11 at 12:41 am
Posted on 10/1/11 at 12:59 am to Bayoufightingtiger
You are really ignorant if you honestly believe we joined the SEC to run from texas.
Posted on 10/1/11 at 1:10 am to Enormous Codpiece
Seriously, every school in the SWC was crooked as hell in the 80's.
Everyone in the state knew it.
Everyone in the state knew it.
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