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Posted on 8/12/11 at 11:59 am to Dr Drunkenstein
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The Aggies announce this thing is 100% done and now the legislature is meeting.....what gives?
What gives? UT is trying to flex political muscle to get the move stopped. Unfortunately there's not much this group can do.. In fact, in the past year, this group has heaped major admiration in A&Ms direction due to their response to budget cuts and have used them as a model for other universities. They cannot pass laws or even vote on anything until 2013. They're lame ducks who are just acting on behalf of the money that put them in that position.
Shockingly this new attempt to keep A&M in the Big XII by Texas is in stark contrast to the "let them go" montra Texas was following until things looked to be done..
Posted on 8/12/11 at 12:00 pm to The Egg
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Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe has told Texas A&M that Texas holds the key to the long-term future of the Big 12
That would be the problem, dumbfrick.
Texas is doing everything it can to enrich itself at the expense of the remainder of the league, which is why A&M wants out.
The only thing I'm surprised about is that OU isn't looking for the door as well.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 12:01 pm to The Egg
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Beebe basically just told a&m to go frick itself.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 12:01 pm to teke184
OU goes nowhere without OSU
Posted on 8/12/11 at 12:02 pm to teke184
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Texas is doing everything it can to enrich itself at the expense of the remainder of the league, which is why A&M wants out.
This.
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The only thing I'm surprised about is that OU isn't looking for the door as well.
No joke.. They've got an Okie Light problem though.
This post was edited on 8/12/11 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 8/12/11 at 12:04 pm to The Egg
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OU goes nowhere without OSU
OU may change their minds if it comes down to taking a half-assed deal with the Pac 12 to come in with Okie State or going to the SEC as the 14th team.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 12:05 pm to teke184
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That would be the problem, dumbfrick.
Texas is doing everything it can to enrich itself at the expense of the remainder of the league, which is why A&M wants out.
The only thing I'm surprised about is that OU isn't looking for the door as well.
This.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 12:07 pm to Ball Gravy
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Branch just wants testimony from Loftin on why they are leaving and the economic impact it will have on A&M from a university standpoint and city standpoint.
Dennis Dodd was on Chip Brown's show this morning explaining that Dr Tom did the exact same thing when Nebraska left for the Big10
just a formality
Posted on 8/12/11 at 12:11 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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That comment makes me think that, when things shake out, the SEC will be a 16 team conference in 2013, as will the Pac & Big 10.
Four 16 team Super Conferences is the future of BCS football
Posted on 8/12/11 at 12:20 pm to supatigah
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Shockingly this new attempt to keep A&M in the Big XII by Texas is in stark contrast to the "let them go" montra Texas was following until things looked to be done..
I don't think Texas is behind this, it is Baylor and Tech. If it is Texas, why did they just have their mouthpiece (Beebe) tell A&M to frick off an go to the SEC?
Posted on 8/12/11 at 12:20 pm to The Egg
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OU goes nowhere without OSU
(back to Dennis Dodd & Chip Brown from this morning)
they both described Norman as a "black hole for information" as they were laughing about just how tight-lipped things were yesterday as they were clawing to get anything out of OU
Posted on 8/12/11 at 12:25 pm to supatigah
This will be a good move financially for a&m and will ease their little brother syndrome.
As far as success on the field, they'll be the equivalent of Ole Miss, IMO. Too many recruiting foes in their 'hood. Texas, OU, and now Ark., LSU and the rest of the SEC. In addition to a brutal schedule. Good luck w/ all that. They'll fire their coaching staff within 2 years of joining.
I will say Texas laid an egg with the LHN and overall arrogance. The Big 12 was a fantastic conference without scaring everyone off. I guess UNL left partly due to getting their arses beat too much, but still.
As far as success on the field, they'll be the equivalent of Ole Miss, IMO. Too many recruiting foes in their 'hood. Texas, OU, and now Ark., LSU and the rest of the SEC. In addition to a brutal schedule. Good luck w/ all that. They'll fire their coaching staff within 2 years of joining.
I will say Texas laid an egg with the LHN and overall arrogance. The Big 12 was a fantastic conference without scaring everyone off. I guess UNL left partly due to getting their arses beat too much, but still.
This post was edited on 8/12/11 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 8/12/11 at 12:30 pm to TejasHorn
Dr. D, Regarding the political will, Texas legislature won't meet again until 2013, right? So at this point there isn't much they can do.
I say at ATM to the West and FSU to the East.
I say at ATM to the West and FSU to the East.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 12:33 pm to TejasHorn
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As far as success on the field, they'll be the equivalent of Ole Miss, IMO.
So basically you're saying that a team that has beat Texas 3 of the past 5 years would never be better than a middle of the road team in the SEC?
....What does that say about your school?
Posted on 8/12/11 at 12:35 pm to GerryDiNardo
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So basically you're saying that a team that has beat Texas 3 of the past 5 years would never be better than a middle of the road team in the SEC?
I think he is saying that a team that had one national title in the 30s and which hasn't had a top 5 finish in over a half century will be no better than a middle of the road team.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 12:35 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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I don't think Texas is behind this, it is Baylor and Tech. If it is Texas, why did they just have their mouthpiece (Beebe) tell A&M to frick off an go to the SEC?
Valid point on Beebe. He definitely gave A&M all the ammo it needs to get through this meeting without a hitch. The Big XII-3 staying together without A&M and having the opportunity to add another Texas school to a BCS conference should be a WIN-WIN situation for the State.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 12:37 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
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I think he is saying that a team that had one national title in the 30s and which hasn't had a top 5 finish in over a half century will be no better than a middle of the road team.
Then Texas would be no better than a middle of the road team in the SEC as well... The argument that A&M is somehow destined to be a middle of the road team is just fricking dumb. Not quite as dumb as saying A&M is scared of Texas, but pretty damn close.
This post was edited on 8/12/11 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 8/12/11 at 12:44 pm to GerryDiNardo
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Then Texas would be no better than a middle of the road team in the SEC as well
Are you saying A&M and Texas are equal in those respects? Texas has 4 undisputed national titles since A&M last title. Texas has finished in the top 3 in the country 2 of the last 3 seasons and aggie hasn't finished in the top 5 in over 50 years. Texas is 2nd in all-time wins. Based on my post and your response, you seem to be really confused.
Posted on 8/12/11 at 12:51 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
Hey D... shoot me an email if you get a chance...
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