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re: Austin American Statesman: Big 12 "is done" ... Texas has 3 realignment options
Posted on 9/13/11 at 11:33 am to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 9/13/11 at 11:33 am to H-Town Tiger
How can I say this delicately...
frick TEXAS!
frick TEXAS!
This post was edited on 9/13/11 at 1:37 pm
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Posted on 9/13/11 at 11:33 am to spslayto
quote:Yes, that would suck for players, but fans will have no problem catching flights to see games.
Talk about long road trips in either of those conferences.
ACC does present a better fit from a time zone perspective...gaining an hour on trip back home would be helpful...coming back from a trip on the west coast and losing two hours would hurt.
I have to think that UT prefers the Pac-12, but will their greed (re: LHN) doom them?
Posted on 9/13/11 at 11:34 am to H-Town Tiger
Dodds may have caused himself and UT alot of problems with this ESPN deal didnt he? Why is Dodds so opposed to going independent?
Posted on 9/13/11 at 11:35 am to mikeytig
quote:scheduling issues, especially for the minor sports...
Why is Dodds so opposed to going independent?
Plus, its the fear of the unknown...with the landscape changing so quickly, who knows if being independent is a good thing.
This post was edited on 9/13/11 at 11:36 am
Posted on 9/13/11 at 11:40 am to wilceaux
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Who would you say would be #2?
florida.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 12:04 pm to LSU GrandDad
What's wrong with the Big 10 for UT? Seems like a pretty good fit. 
Posted on 9/13/11 at 12:06 pm to Hot Carl
quote:far away...cold...believes in equal sharing...what will stop Ohio State from getting its own network if the Big Ten allows Texas to have its own? Will that be fair to the schools in the conference that don't have their own network? Plus, there is already a Big Ten Network.
What's wrong with the Big 10 for UT? Seems like a pretty good fit.
This post was edited on 9/13/11 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 9/13/11 at 12:07 pm to LSU GrandDad
no way florida better than texas. there are probably 5 or less public universities that are better than texas. think along the lines of virginia, maybe north carolina, cal berkeley etc.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 12:10 pm to Larry Hollins
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"Texas really isn't happy with the way the Pac-12 would like to align the conference," a well-placed source said. "They want to put all the former Pac-8 schools in one division and group all the former Big 12 schools (assuming Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas and Texas Tech join) with Utah and the Arizona schools." Texas wants to be in the same division as UCLA and Southern Cal, which would be tougher, but it would also guarantee the Longhorns a trip to Los Angeles every year. Think recruiting.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 12:16 pm to Jwho77
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Texas wants to be in the same division as UCLA and Southern Cal, which would be tougher, but it would also guarantee the Longhorns a trip to Los Angeles every year. Think recruiting.
They have a rude awakening coming to them. The Pac-12 and even the ACC aren't going to let them waltz in and start dictating the terms. They'll have to swallow their pride and share the Dwindling XII with their old SWC mates, and maybe invite BYU/Air Force/Memphis/Tulane to expand the footprint.
Or, maybe CUSA or the MWC would be interested in giving the Horns a home.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 12:27 pm to Smoke Ring
From the Statesman article:
"The bottom line: Oklahoma wants to leave. Texas wants to stay but knows it probably has to leave too. Things are bound to change, and the Longhorns are willing to sit back and wait to choose their destiny."
The part about Longhorns sitting back and choosing their destiny now could not be further from the truth. Texas chose their destiny by clinging to LHN...and now they are watching Aggie and OU make critical choices that frankly reduce the choices now available to Texas.
"The bottom line: Oklahoma wants to leave. Texas wants to stay but knows it probably has to leave too. Things are bound to change, and the Longhorns are willing to sit back and wait to choose their destiny."
The part about Longhorns sitting back and choosing their destiny now could not be further from the truth. Texas chose their destiny by clinging to LHN...and now they are watching Aggie and OU make critical choices that frankly reduce the choices now available to Texas.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 12:30 pm to Larry Hollins
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no way florida better than texas. there are probably 5 or less public universities that are better than texas. think along the lines of virginia, maybe north carolina, cal berkeley etc.
The gap is not that large between UF and UT. Depends on who is doing the ranking and what they are ranking. UF and UT were tied in the US News rankings just 3 years ago, UT ranks higher now. UF is ranked way ahead in Forbes list. Rankings of research institutions sometimes have one over the other. Both are big, significant research institutions that have very highly selective admissions.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 12:38 pm to bgator85
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The gap is not that large between UF and UT
I was thinking the same thing. Rankings are mostly bullshite no matter how you cut it. What really matters is the ranking of the specific program of study each student is interested in. And those vary wildly across schools. The big thing about conference academics is perception. And though Florida and Alabama have excellent academics, they can suffer from the stupidity of the t-shirt fans.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 12:38 pm to bgator85
Whoever wants to invite the Whorns to their conference should read this column from the Kansas City Star.
Breaking up the Big 12 is not a collegial act
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Breaking up the Big 12 is not a collegial act
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No other major power, not Florida, Ohio State, Michigan, anybody, acts on its arrogance as destructively as Texas.
I overheard this exchange Saturday.
“How many conferences is Texas going to destroy?”
Answer: “Every one it joins.”
Posted on 9/13/11 at 12:50 pm to Chicken
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Stu, what's the background on these guys? Are they mouthpieces for UT?
Bohls has been weird recently. Like he is becoming senile. He wrote one article a couple of months back saying the QBs had been told by the coaches that Garret Gilbert had been named the starter and then a couple of weeks later wrote another article lighting up the coaching staff for not having yet named a starter. He is all over the place.
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This is terrible for Texas. What a colossal frick up it'll be if they end up in the ACC.
I don't think Texas will be in the ACC....but if it happened, why would it be a colossal frick up? Texas wouldn't go ACC unless it keeps the LHN. Texas has plenty of $ for the travel.
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I have to think that UT prefers the Pac-12, but will their greed (re: LHN) doom them?
This is over the head of the athletics department now. The University bigwigs don't want to lose the many, many millions from the LHN which go straight to academics. Texas will go independent or play in a joke Big 12 before it parts with the LHN.
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far away...cold...believes in equal sharing...what will stop Ohio State from getting its own network if the Big Ten allows Texas to have its own? Will that be fair to the schools in the conference that don't have their own network? Plus, there is already a Big Ten Network.
I think a lot of people will be surprised with what the Big 10 and Texas cook up.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 12:56 pm to Dr Drunkenstein
I think the ACC has a better chance than most people think. Check this out:
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That would leave the Longhorns with several unpalatable choices. They could go independent in football and attempt to park the rest of their sports in another league -- as Notre Dame and BYU do. Or they could attempt to join the ACC, which might not make geographic sense but which does have a media rights setup that would allow for the Longhorn Network in its current form.
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That would leave the Longhorns with several unpalatable choices. They could go independent in football and attempt to park the rest of their sports in another league -- as Notre Dame and BYU do. Or they could attempt to join the ACC, which might not make geographic sense but which does have a media rights setup that would allow for the Longhorn Network in its current form.
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Posted on 9/13/11 at 12:58 pm to LSUisjustOK
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The big thing about conference academics is perception
I agree completely. When I was doing research at UF, this was constantly talked about by the academics. The national perception is hampered by being in the SEC, you sort of get lumped into other schools rightly or wrongly.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 1:07 pm to Smoke Ring
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The first is the well-being of its student-athletes. Traveling back and forth across the country and different time zones can make life extremely difficult for students trying to cram for midterms. The ACC with its Eastern time zone would present a more favorable option for game times and late-night travel than the Pac-12.
All I can say about this is....horse crap. This is what galls me about Texas. They know this is bullshite, we know this is bullshite, yet they feed it to us as if we're supposed to buy it? C'mon, man....I was born at night, but it wasn't last night.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 1:16 pm to Smoke Ring
Why not just go independent for the time being? They should hold out and see if the Big 10 will expand. Geographically and Academically that is their best option IMO.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 1:23 pm to rileytiger
If Texas is willing to swallow a little bit of pride--not a lot--it would be welcome with open arms into the big ten. Yes losing the LHN would hurt, but the BTN isn't chicken feed.
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