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re: your top 5 head coaching candidates

Posted on 12/7/10 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by Camp Randall
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Posted on 12/7/10 at 1:55 pm to
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i would rather the AD go all-in and try to get the best guy opposed to find the guy who will least likely fail


Then if the coach does fail you can bitch and moan on the message board that the AD sucks. All the while our program takes 6-8 years to climb back up to where they were before the new hire. No big deal, roll the dice.
Posted by Angry LLAMA
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Posted on 12/7/10 at 1:57 pm to
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All the while our program takes 6-8 years to climb back up to where they were before the new hire. No big deal, roll the dice.
florida gave the zooker 3 years. he wasnt the guy, so they whacked him and got urban meyer. and a big time school- like LSU is- its not a death sentence
Posted by Angry LLAMA
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Posted on 12/7/10 at 2:02 pm to
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I would want a guy who is a proven leader
malzahn is a legendary school football coach in arkansas. i know its highschool- but youd think he knows how to lead to be as successful as he was at that level
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organizational skills to be the head guy
he was the athletic director of the entire district while at springdale. he does have experience doing things that arent only football.
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Most head coaches who have succeeded at high profile jobs - Spurrier, Carroll, Tressell, Brown, Holtz, Saban, Meyer would all say that they need every year of HC experience to handle the pressure and responsibilities at their bigger jobs.
pelini made the jump from big time coordinator to big time head coaching job. so did bobby stoops. dan mullen seems have figured it out. see a trend? exceptional coordinators who pretty much fuel NC title runs translate well. its a risk- but so is every coaching candidate
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/7/10 at 2:03 pm to
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florida gave the zooker 3 years. he wasnt the guy, so they whacked him and got urban meyer. and a big time school- like LSU is- its not a death sentence


That's only because they then landed Meyer, who saved the program. Even with Meyer, he had a fair amount of risk because he was coming from a smaller conference and had an unconventional offense for the SEC. But Florida was fortunate.

I'd rather not roll the dice at any time. It took LSU a long time to get to this point. We endured Archer, Hallman, Dinardo before finding Saban and then Miles.

Lots of programs have wallowed in mediocrity for 10-15 years by taking risky hires (Oklahoma before Stoops, USC before Carroll, Texas before Brown, and ND since the mid 90s).
Posted by snow517
West Monroe, La
Member since Feb 2009
761 posts
Posted on 12/7/10 at 2:04 pm to
Ken Niumatalolo-Navy

Head coaching record
Overall 26-13 (.667)
Posted by Angry LLAMA
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Posted on 12/7/10 at 2:07 pm to
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I'd rather not roll the dice at any time.
youd prefer 9-3, 8-4 years, every year?
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/7/10 at 2:08 pm to
Not saying he would be my top guy, but everyone overlooks Pat Fitzgerald.
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 12/7/10 at 2:12 pm to
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pelini made the jump from big time coordinator to big time head coaching job. so did bobby stoops. dan mullen seems have figured it out. see a trend? exceptional coordinators who pretty much fuel NC title runs translate well. its a risk- but so is every coaching candidate


I agree. The Richt hire at UGA has worked out for them for the most part. You don't have to win a national title for a hire to be successful. When you limit your search to sitting head coaches, you limit your talent pool. But, I do understand the concern of a coordinator coming in to a place like LSU where there is a lot of pressure and impatient fans. Having a guy who has experience running his own program at another school and can bring some folks from his current staff he has been working with to help with the transition is always a plus.
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 12/7/10 at 2:22 pm to
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but everyone overlooks Pat Fitzgerald.


Not me. I've been mentioning him for several years(can probably find some posts in the old threads on this board doing so). The question is would he ever leave his alma mater. It would have to be a situation where a program like LSU or Texas is looking for someone to turn their program around and the money would have to be really good.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 12/7/10 at 2:31 pm to
You have quite a little crush on Malzahn, don't you?
Posted by Charles73151
Sheffield, AL
Member since May 2009
159 posts
Posted on 12/7/10 at 2:32 pm to
An outside the box thought - Randy Edsel of UCONN.
Posted by Angry LLAMA
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/7/10 at 2:35 pm to
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You have quite a little crush on Malzahn, don't you?
i really do. i just see him being a dominant urban meyer type and would hate to play him every year. i think the guys a rock star
Posted by Angry LLAMA
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Member since Mar 2009
2731 posts
Posted on 12/7/10 at 2:38 pm to
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Randy Edsel of UCONN.
i think hes a safe hire. show up on time, be polite, great with the media. always above average but never elite. when was uconn's biggest win? have they beaten a top 10 team ever? i think he has limited upside...

but we could do worse thats for sure
Posted by mrbayoublu
Acadiana
Member since Jan 2004
2962 posts
Posted on 12/7/10 at 4:09 pm to
The only reason we would need a head coach is if Jim Harbaugh goes to the NFL, which is highly likely that he will get an invite to at least interview with several NFL teams.

Gary Patterson would be a home run in my book.
Posted by Angry LLAMA
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/7/10 at 4:35 pm to
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Gary Patterson would be a home run in my book.
with TCU moving to the big east, i cant see him leaving fort worth
Posted by Bayoutiger82
Shreveport, LA
Member since Nov 2010
103 posts
Posted on 12/7/10 at 4:37 pm to
1. Mark Dantonio
2. Patterson
3. Petrino
4. Peterson
5. Whoever
Posted by EastTexasTiger
Lufkin, Tx.
Member since Feb 2007
4225 posts
Posted on 12/7/10 at 6:09 pm to
Harbaugh
Leach
Petrino
Patterson
Malzahn
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
141003 posts
Posted on 12/7/10 at 6:24 pm to
Depends on state of program and financial situation. But I like

Spurrier
Art Briles
Jags
Gary Pinkell
Pat Fitzgerald
This post was edited on 12/7/10 at 6:27 pm
Posted by Angry LLAMA
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Member since Mar 2009
2731 posts
Posted on 12/7/10 at 6:28 pm to
quote:

Spurrier
Art Briles
Jags
Gary Pinkell
Pat Fitzgerald
oh sweet baby jesus....
Posted by BoogerEater
Lake Charles, La.
Member since Feb 2008
1598 posts
Posted on 12/7/10 at 8:03 pm to
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