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Young Up & Comers for OC

Posted on 12/22/23 at 10:26 am
Posted by Flablete
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Posted on 12/22/23 at 10:26 am
Sloan or Slade Nagle from Tulane
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 12/22/23 at 10:35 am to
I’ll take Sloan.

He is already here and is an elite recruiter and his work turning JD into the beast he was puts him in the driver seat.

It’s like a second coming of Joe Brady
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 12/22/23 at 10:40 am to
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He is already here and is an elite recruiter and his work turning JD into the beast he was puts him in the driver seat. It’s like a second coming of Joe Brady


Being a great developer and elite recruiter is fantastic and need to keep. But that doesn’t make you a great play caller.

What’s his history as an OC?
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/22/23 at 10:42 am to
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During the 2020 campaign, Sloan oversaw a Louisiana Tech offense that ranked first in C-USA and second in the FBS in fourth down conversions at 88.9 percent (16-of-18). He guided the offense to rank fourth in C-USA and 53rd in the FBS in red zone offense at 84.6 percent (33-of-39). The Louisiana Tech offense also ranked fourth in C-USA in passing with an average of 216.6 passing yards per game.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 12/22/23 at 11:02 am to
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I’ll take Sloan.


Why? Other than recruiting, what’s his playcalling like? What is his history with offenses? How did they perform? What kind of offense does he prefer ?
Posted by Gumpsbleaux
Texas
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 12/22/23 at 11:02 am to
Can you post stats that actually matter. Like PPG or YPG. No one cares about 4th down conversion rate when hiring an OC.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 12/22/23 at 11:07 am to
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Can you post stats that actually matter. Like PPG or YPG. No one cares about 4th down conversion rate when hiring an OC.


…and in a year that doesn’t even count.
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/22/23 at 11:21 am to
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Can you post stats that actually matter. Like PPG or YPG. No one cares about 4th down conversion rate when hiring an OC


sure ill do some extra digging for your lazy arse
Posted by Gumpsbleaux
Texas
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 12/22/23 at 12:42 pm to
I’m not the one trying to hype up an OC by posting his 4th down conversion stats like you are. I actually look at stats that matter for an OC
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 12/22/23 at 1:42 pm to
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During the 2020 campaign, Sloan oversaw a Louisiana Tech offense that ranked first in C-USA and second in the FBS in fourth down conversions at 88.9 percent (16-of-18). He guided the offense to rank fourth in C-USA and 53rd in the FBS in red zone offense at 84.6 percent (33-of-39). The Louisiana Tech offense also ranked fourth in C-USA in passing with an average of 216.6 passing yards per game.


Those are some very cherry picked stats from C-USA and didn’t answer how he is as a play caller.

Once again, being a great developer and elite recruiter doesn’t make you a great Playcaller

I’m not against Sloan by any means, I’ve just never seen him as a play caller while he was at LaTech. Never watched them play.

But here are some statistics from 2020 (I don’t put much stock in anything 2020) and 2021

2020 FBS ranks as OC
Total offense - 117th
Scoring - 78th / 26.7ppg
Rushing - 119th
Passing - 74th / 216.6 ypg
3rd down - 75th / 38.46%

2021
Total offense - 77th
Scoring -70th / 28ppg
Rushing - 105th
Passing - 35th / 261.8 only bright spot of improvement
3rd down - 71st / 39.63

For comparison

La Tech 2019: Co-OC
Total offense - 35th
Scoring - 35th / 32.5ppg
Rushing - 57th
Passing - 32nd / 268.5
3rd down - 46th / 41.38
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/22/23 at 2:03 pm to
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But here are some statistics from 2020 (I don’t put much stock in anything 2020) and 2021

I went and looked at those 3 years and Tech had a different QB and leading RB each season. Not sure what was going on, but it's definitely difficult to produce much with that lack of continuity.

I'm not sold on Sloan as OC, but you have to at least move him to co-OC to keep him on board. If UGA can have Schulman and Muschamp as co-DCs we have to be able to find a way to make this work.
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