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re: Would Jim Mora Jr. make a good college coach?

Posted on 1/9/10 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by mattz1122
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Posted on 1/9/10 at 5:53 pm to
Bill Callahan was a great NFL OC and as HC at Nebraska, just managed to coach a couple of good offenses and some really bad defenses. Having some NFL success doesn't mean you'll have instant success on the college level, especially on both sides of the ball.
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Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 1/9/10 at 6:12 pm to
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If Sarkisian takes the SC job look for him to be hired at U Dub


Supposedly Udub is his dream job. I am surprised he took the Seahawk job knowing the Udub job could be opening soon (before TY was fired and sark hired). I bet it could happen depending upon if Riley takes the job or not. Sark is proven as an oc, he hasn't exactly proven what Mike Riley has as a head coach. They both have ties to SC. Oregon states coordinators aren't exactly chumps. They have been together for sometime and have turned down other jobs to stay with Riley. They also have put the second most amount of players in the NFL behind SC in the pac ten in recent years.


eta.......I just wonder if Riley turned it down and Sark jumped, would the powers at be would want Mora now. I think with the instant success they have had since Sark was hired would they try to just steal away a big name. I know they are tired of being near the bottom. They aren't used to it and it has been very painful for them to endure. Sark leaving will be painful if he goes, I wonder if they would settle for Mora at this point.
This post was edited on 1/9/10 at 6:18 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/9/10 at 6:25 pm to
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Bill Callahan was a great NFL OC

he ran the offense of another coach

and he was insistent on installing an offense that can't work in CFB
Posted by mattz1122
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Posted on 1/9/10 at 6:32 pm to
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he ran the offense of another coach


A lot of coaches have used The West Coast Offense and Callahan used it successfully after Gruden left.

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and he was insistent on installing an offense that can't work in CFB


The West Coast Offense?


Posted by Dr. 3
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Posted on 1/9/10 at 6:43 pm to
I really think he is a good coach.

He was 4 games over .500 when he got fired from Atl, the brass got pissed off when he said that shite about the UW job.

The Seattle situation was horrible this year. I dont think he was the main reason they went 5-11.

If he goes college, I think he would be a great fit. He has that energy that the kids love.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/9/10 at 8:22 pm to
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and Callahan used it successfully after Gruden left.

for like 1 year

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The West Coast Offense?

yes. it is not a college offense

takes 3-4 years to learn, which doesn't work when you only have guys for 3-5 years. just too complex for college
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/9/10 at 8:23 pm to
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I dont think he was the main reason they went 5-11.

yeah i mean take that roster and put bill b as the head coach and what is their max win total? 7?

and i'm not defending mora, i'm just saying he was put in a horible situation, talent-wise
Posted by mattz1122
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Posted on 1/9/10 at 8:37 pm to
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for like 1 year


So? The Raiders offense was at its best when Callahan was the OC and HC. And Gruden didn't have a lot of offensive success in Tampa.

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yes. it is not a college offense

takes 3-4 years to learn, which doesn't work when you only have guys for 3-5 years. just too complex for college



USC and Auburn are two examples of college teams that used the WCO in the last few years and were very successful.


There have been a few coaches who were good enough to be NFL Position coaches/OCs/HCs but couldn't cut it on the college level. Sherman and Gailey are two more examples. Gailey was an average college HC and Sherman seems to be the same.
This post was edited on 1/9/10 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 1/9/10 at 9:55 pm to
I always thought Jim Mora Jr. was much more fit for college than the pros. And I was really surprised that took that Seahawks job. I thought he'd put himself in a position to take the UDub job whenever it opened up.



BTW, I know a lot of you like Mike Riley as a coach, but he has nowhere near the dynamic personality of Carroll, and their national recruiting would eventually take a pretty big hit. Sark at USC could be scary, though. I hope he doesn't take it because 1)USC or anybody else being really good is bad for LSU, and 1) He'd be at the top of my list of potential replacements for Les whenever he finally leaves. And Sark ain't leaving USC unless he's fired or goes to the NFL himself.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/10/10 at 1:12 pm to
USC doesn't run the west coast offense. they still run chow's offense

AU didn't really run the WCO. that was just dumbass SEC media

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Sherman and Gailey are two more examples.

TAMU improved a good bit in sherman's 2nd year. his career isn't over yet

gailey isn't dynamic or energetic for recruiting
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