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re: With the right off.-coordinator, could Orgeron be LSU's best hire.

Posted on 9/29/16 at 8:54 pm to
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
5666 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 8:54 pm to
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What was Bill Belichicks record at Cleveland again??



36-44 with one Playoff appearance. CEO was 3-21 and never sniffed any postseason play.


if not for that 6-2 magical run with USC he would be 10-25 as HC.

If USC saw something in him that was HC material they would have kept him.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 8:55 pm to
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This shows how bad the program was under Miles


Are you fricking kidding? We won less than 9 games just twice in 11 years and thats while playing in the hardest division in cfb. In no way was our program bad we werent where we wanted be but we were not bad
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 8:59 pm to
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we can't get Herman or Fisher. Then maybe



No not even then. If Jimbo and Herman say no you go after Venables or Fuentes. You dont fire Les Miles and replace him with Ed Orgeron.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
20877 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:03 pm to
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You would be ok with firing Les Miles for Ed Orgeron?


Orgeron would do anything to pump up the offense- he would let his OC run the show. Miles was never going to let that happen!
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
5666 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:05 pm to
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Orgeron would do anything to pump up the offense- he would let his OC run the show



You mean the same way he did at Ole Miss?
Posted by roach3
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:12 pm to
I think the only way O gets the job is if he finishes with no more than 2 losses, and either playing bama close or winning. If he does that I'm in, there is no excuse the talent is in place. for what it's worth i think he pulls it off. with good OC he could do something special.
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
5666 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:16 pm to
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I think the only way O gets the job is if he finishes with no more than 2 losses, and either playing bama close or winning. If he does that I'm in, there is no excuse the talent is in place. for what it's worth i think he pulls it off. with good OC he could do something special.


So if CEO goes 6-2 and wins the bowl game you want him as the HC?


Nothing more I can say about that. Don't really know what to say. Speechless would be a better term
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:17 pm to
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So if CEO goes 6-2 and wins the bowl game you want him as the HC?


Absolutely not.
Posted by roach3
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:19 pm to
if Herman and Fisher said no why not? I failed to mention that I the above post
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:21 pm to
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if Herman and Fisher said no why not?


Because there are much better candidates out there than O besides those two.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8073 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:25 pm to
Coach O is a fall-back option.

When was the last time a once-failed, now interim coach ended up getting the job on a permanent basis and doing well? I'd love to know. Any examples welcome, including NFL, NCAAF ... hell, give me basketball or baseball examples, if necessary.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:25 pm to
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So if CEO goes 6-2 and wins the bowl game you want him as the HC?



I am truly fascinated by this. Les miles built this team, orgeron going 6-2 means absolutely nothing to me. Go 8-0 with a championship and MAYBE.

I was ready for miles to go, but if we end up with O, it'll be a net=net at best.
Posted by dcw7g
Member since Dec 2003
1971 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:30 pm to
Clay Helton went 5-2 as interim at USC. Now they realize winning over the long term as a head coach is a whole different ballgame.
Posted by roach3
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:31 pm to
i think Les would have finished with 3-4 losses. if O had only 2 his coaching would be an improvement over les, but it's only a small sample. Beating bama is something Les hadn't done since 2011
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:36 pm to
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think Les would have finished with 3-4 losses.

Maybe but not the point. Les built this squad. We've seen O build a team. It was horrendous.

Maybe he would be better than he was at ole miss. Maybe. But I doubt he could go from winning 25% of his games to 80%. It's just not plausible.

There are 20 other coaches more qualified to take over this job.
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10471 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:36 pm to
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When was the last time a once-failed, now interim coach ended up getting the job on a permanent basis and doing well?


Dabo, I suppose.

Although I agree with most others here - Orgeron should not be an option.
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
5666 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:39 pm to
No No I was not advocating CEO to get the job if he goes 6-2


The poster above me at the time was saying that and I didn't really know how to respond to that.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:50 pm to
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Didnt Chizik get a rough welcome at Auburn for his prior coaching record? He took em to 14-0 and a NC

Didn't he get fired the next year after can left? LOL
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3736 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:51 pm to
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They never really tanked as HC like Orgeron. Orgeron was terrible at Ole Miss.



U mutha frickin SC. let's keep an open mind
Posted by HuRRiCaNe MiLeS
Bossier City
Member since Jan 2010
8153 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 10:16 pm to
God damn just think about how fricking retarded that would sound. LSU would be making the dumbest decision in college football if they keep CEO as full time head coach.
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