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re: Why is it assumed Texas can pull a big name?
Posted on 12/15/13 at 6:27 pm to The Mick
Posted on 12/15/13 at 6:27 pm to The Mick
So you think they get a big name? Who on the list would be a "big name"?
I think to call it a big name, it'd have to be Saban, Meyer, Miles, Fisher, Malzahn perhaps, or an NFL guy.
I think Strong, Swinney, Franklin, etc. would all be great hires, but I wouldn't call them a huge splash hire.
I think to call it a big name, it'd have to be Saban, Meyer, Miles, Fisher, Malzahn perhaps, or an NFL guy.
I think Strong, Swinney, Franklin, etc. would all be great hires, but I wouldn't call them a huge splash hire.
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Posted on 12/15/13 at 6:27 pm to bamafan425
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why isn't every big name coach waiting to line up outside the Texas AD office tomorrow morning for first shot at the job?
How do you know they're not?
Posted on 12/15/13 at 6:27 pm to Walking the Earth
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Sounds like some Aggie propaganda to me.
"Texas A&M, the new facilities that they built, they're way better than what Texas has from what I saw. That's one thing I really liked about Texas A&M." - Texas commit Armanti Foreman (April 2013)
"We knew it was probably going to come down to three schools, with A&M being one of them. Their facilities are in the top two that we’ve seen" - Robert Taliaferro, handler for Texas commits Sione and Maea Teuhema after visiting OU, Texas, LSU, and A&M over the course of a week (April 2013). I assume LSU was the other but really dunno
This post was edited on 12/15/13 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 12/15/13 at 6:30 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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How do you know they're not?
You really think this is the case? I don't know that they aren't, but I doubt it. What makes you think otherwise?
Posted on 12/15/13 at 7:13 pm to bamafan425
In terms of money generated, Texas is the most successful athletic department in college football. This was not the case previously for any hire.
Posted on 12/15/13 at 9:51 pm to Big12fan
Obviously greater than
Waterfalls man….fricking waterfalls
Posted on 12/15/13 at 9:53 pm to bamafan425
They can't. They will get a good coach but they aren't cherry picking a Saban, Meyer, or Harbaugh.
Posted on 12/15/13 at 10:13 pm to artompkins
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People with real wealth and true power don't have to have press conferences to remind people of it.
Red Mccombs was the one with the Vatican statement and I assure you he has "real wealth and power."
Posted on 12/16/13 at 9:01 am to bamafan425
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what else shows that they are capable of stealing a big name from a major program?
Texas does not need a "big" name coach to win. They need someone to evaluate talent who is a good x & o guy. Like it or not the Texas "brand" sells itself. Mack got in trouble cause he got lazy in recruiting and made bad decisions with offers to certain players.
When LSU hired Dinardo we needed someone to convince the in state kids that LSU was the place to be. He did a good job of that and would have had a lot of success, but he made bad hiring decisions.
Some schools need a "big" name to jump start the program. Saban was a pretty big name when LSU hired him, but he was not a "proven" winner even with his success at MSU. Didn't win his first bowl game until he got to LSU.
I think UT is looking for someone long term, not a short term hired gun. The coach they hire will probably be younger than 50, with at least a 15 year career possibility at UT.
Granted Saban does not fit that mold, but even money says he probably would have won at least 1 NC within 5 years at UT.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 9:23 am to bamafan425
Mr. Green is a persuasive recruiter.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 9:27 am to bamafan425
Because Mack took Texas back to being a big program. Not just money. We have a recent NC, one of the top recruiting grounds right in our backyard, a nice area of the state (anyone who disagrees hasn't been to Austin), and to top it off, money. Comparing who we hired and the situation in the 90s (along with the 80s, one of the worst decades in Texas football) to now just makes you look ignorant. The two situations could not be more different.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 9:33 am to The Nino
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top of their conference
Wait, what?
Posted on 12/16/13 at 9:37 am to Walking the Earth
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quote: the facilities are excellent
Not really. Their football facility was recently renovated but remains a strange, windowless bunker. Look it up. It's Soviet. The weight room is small and dungeon-like. It was way ahead of its time when they built it in the late '80s but it's basically unsalvageable now its so out of date. Their practice fields are, oddly, a long hike from their football facility and are located partially beneath an interstate highway. No joke. They're constrained by being located in the downtown area of a major city
Posted on 12/16/13 at 9:43 am to dante
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Mack got in trouble cause he got lazy in recruiting
He did? Oh yeah, last 3 Heisman winners (all QBs) are on record as wanting to go to Texas. 2 he recruited for a different position and 1 wouldn't even return his phone calls. Ouch!
Posted on 12/16/13 at 9:46 am to Horn09
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Because Mack took Texas back to being a big program. Not just money. We have a recent NC,
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one of the top recruiting grounds right in our backyard
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a nice area of the state (anyone who disagrees hasn't been to Austin)
Of course those 2 aren't due to Mack but rather location.
And I've been to Austin, in fact I was at a work event last Thursday night there. My family and I live in New Braunfels and I work in San Marcos. Took me 1.5 hours to get from SM to Anderson Mill @ 183, that is ridiculous. I love going to Austin to eat or for a show at Bass but cannot imagine actually living there. Just too many people and the traffic Sucks. The roads were designed by a blind man in a closet drawing with a crayon.
This post was edited on 12/16/13 at 9:47 am
Posted on 12/16/13 at 9:48 am to relapse98
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He did? Oh yeah, last 3 Heisman winners (all QBs) are on record as wanting to go to Texas. 2 he recruited for a different position and 1 wouldn't even return his phone calls. Ouch!
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They need someone to evaluate talent
Posted on 12/16/13 at 9:49 am to dante
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They need someone to evaluate talent
Exactly.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 9:50 am to artompkins
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I don't understand why people perpetuate this myth, either. I have immediate family that work in Austin; it's only a great place if your a twenty something or a thirty something. Not any different than anywhere alse in the country for a college football coach without an ounce of free time to enjoy anything. Add to that, a bunch of arse clowns hell bent on buffoonary and bragging about "vatican money" and I can easily see why they have never hired a better coach than they have. People with real wealth and true power don't have to have press conferences to remind people of it.
Bingo, and I said this a few times last week.
Why do people try to act like the fact that Austin is this great town has any bearing on luring a coach? The locale is irrelevant considering the fact that most head coaches live in exclusive, gated neighborhoods and spend practically 90% of their non-sleeping time at the facility or recruiting.
Nick Saban, David Shaw, Jim Harbaugh, James Franklin, Mark Dantonio, Mike Tomlin....none of them give an eff that 6th Street is awesome because they'd never get to enjoy it.
This post was edited on 12/16/13 at 9:52 am
Posted on 12/16/13 at 9:55 am to Feral
maybe they should just hire the fresno state coach.
Posted on 12/16/13 at 10:02 am to jb4
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maybe they should just hire the fresno state coach.
Tim will get a bigger job someday, of that I'm sure. Just hopefully not at texas. =)
Edit: He was a damn fine DC for us.
This post was edited on 12/16/13 at 10:03 am
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