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Who Are the 'Games' Best X&O Defensive Minds Out There?
Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:15 am
Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:15 am
Thinking college, not NFL.
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Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:16 am to AlwysATgr
Aranda hands down
Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:17 am to AlwysATgr
Venables, Kirby, Aranda
Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:20 am to AlwysATgr
Dave Aranda, Brent Venables, Kirby Smart, Jim Leonhard
Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:25 am to AlwysATgr
White Whales..
Saban, Kirby.
Defense wins championships, innovative offenses get solved.
Elko at A&M will be up there in a year or two. They're destroying it on the recruiting trail.
Saban, Kirby.
Defense wins championships, innovative offenses get solved.
Elko at A&M will be up there in a year or two. They're destroying it on the recruiting trail.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:27 am to AlwysATgr
Aranda is at the top of this list for me. The only other guy i'd even entertain as being in the top tier is venables, and imo even venables is not on his level (I think a sneaky proportion of venables's success owes to stealing signs).
Other guys worth mentioning are kirby, dan lanning, jim leonhard, jeff hafley, luke fickell, marcus freeman, mike elko, phil parker, alex grinch.
Other guys worth mentioning are kirby, dan lanning, jim leonhard, jeff hafley, luke fickell, marcus freeman, mike elko, phil parker, alex grinch.
This post was edited on 11/16/21 at 10:28 am
Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:38 am to AlwysATgr
Saban
Kirby
Venables
Fickell
Aranda
Tucker
Elko
Leonard
Phil Parker
Kirby
Venables
Fickell
Aranda
Tucker
Elko
Leonard
Phil Parker
Posted on 11/16/21 at 1:08 pm to BayouBoogie
I don't think Saban belongs on this list at all. Even with huge talent advantages his defense gets lit up a lot.
Unparalleled recruiter, coaches technique well, and makes his team play physical but he's wandering in the wilderness in this era.
Unparalleled recruiter, coaches technique well, and makes his team play physical but he's wandering in the wilderness in this era.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 1:29 pm to AlwysATgr
Defensively - its Leonhard and second place is not even close. His defense right now is shutting down offenses. Wisconsin 's biggest problem is its offense. Followed up by Aranda and then by Schiano who does more with 3* kids than anybody else.
Offensively - Leach's teams once that offense gets going is hard to defend as was evident last week against a pretty good Auburn defense. Despite what is happening at Florida , Mullen does a real good job and tOSU ...whomever is handling the offense is doing a damn good job....scored better than 50 pts 5 X this season.
Offensively - Leach's teams once that offense gets going is hard to defend as was evident last week against a pretty good Auburn defense. Despite what is happening at Florida , Mullen does a real good job and tOSU ...whomever is handling the offense is doing a damn good job....scored better than 50 pts 5 X this season.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:43 pm to AlwysATgr
Saban is academic; he is the institution as it relates to defensive coaching. You should really go listen to his coaching clinics.
I guarantee all these coaches listed have been to one of his clinics. He understands and communicate the intricacies of technique at every position on defense especially DBs.
I wouldn’t look at his current defenses as a reflection of his defensive coaching prowess, because he now has an offense that can keep his defenses in games.
I guarantee all these coaches listed have been to one of his clinics. He understands and communicate the intricacies of technique at every position on defense especially DBs.
I wouldn’t look at his current defenses as a reflection of his defensive coaching prowess, because he now has an offense that can keep his defenses in games.
Posted on 11/16/21 at 11:22 pm to BayouBoogie
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Saban is academic; he is the institution as it relates to defensive coaching. You should really go listen to his coaching clinics.
That would've been true a decade ago. Not anymore.
CBS put together a montage of all his keys to defending spread offenses. He still doesn't know from an X/O perspective.
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I wouldn’t look at his current defenses as a reflection of his defensive coaching prowess, because he now has an offense that can keep his defenses in games.
There's a reason he had to get better on offense. All to his credit and it's a big reason he's the GOAT CFB HC.
This post was edited on 11/16/21 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 11/17/21 at 3:56 am to AlwysATgr
I think you sent the wrong clip. Saban is the architect of the modern 3-4 defense in college; from coaching to personnel. It’s as true today as it was a decade ago; the only difference now is his age.
Aranda, Kirby, and Venables are all on that next level as it relates to defensive coaching.
Saban’s defense is fundamentally very simple but has to executed at a high level in order to be effective. He forces everything up the middle and over the top.
He innovated his offense because of officiating; RPOs. That’s the difference between him and Kirby; Saban gave up a little on defense to gain a lot on offense. I also believe the new NCAA allotted practice times have also played a factor.
Aranda, Kirby, and Venables are all on that next level as it relates to defensive coaching.
Saban’s defense is fundamentally very simple but has to executed at a high level in order to be effective. He forces everything up the middle and over the top.
He innovated his offense because of officiating; RPOs. That’s the difference between him and Kirby; Saban gave up a little on defense to gain a lot on offense. I also believe the new NCAA allotted practice times have also played a factor.
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