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What's the difference between Chizik and Kiffin?

Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:09 pm
Posted by guttata
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:09 pm
I think they both have a championship ring as an assistant and they both have sucked so far as a head coach. What else is there? Chizik seems to be taking alot harder hit than Kiffin.
Posted by geauxaddai
Chicago, IL
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:11 pm to
uh...Kiffin is bringing his dad with him. Ever seen Tampa Bay play defense
This post was edited on 12/15/08 at 3:12 pm
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:12 pm to
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they both have sucked so far as a head coach.

please show me the link to where Lane Kiffin has sucked as a head coach
Posted by clamdip
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:12 pm to
Chizik has a 'z' in his name, which is pretty cool.
Posted by LSUtigahs28
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by guttata
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:17 pm to
Kiffin's dad will be dead before a current freshman is a senior.
OK, Kiffin doesn't have any experience as a head coach.
The Tamps 2 doesn't necessarily work that great against a spread offense. Tenn doesn't have the athletes to run the Tampa 2 either.
This post was edited on 12/15/08 at 3:19 pm
Posted by DJBurke
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 3:17 pm to
LSU fans would crucify Monte Kiffen since he plays a bend but don't break defense.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 4:12 pm to
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please show me the link to where Lane Kiffin has sucked as a head coach


Rhymes with the "Soakland Jaders"

But that may be excusable in some quarters, them not having had a great coach not named Madden, in like ever, ever, ever.

Posted by glaucon
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 4:27 pm to
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Tenn doesn't have the athletes to run the Tampa 2 either.


You mean they don't have athletes like Eric Berry...where do some of you come up with this shite?
Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 4:30 pm to
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But that may be excusable in some quarters, them not having had a great coach not named Madden, in like ever, ever, ever.


Them not having a great anything(except Nnamdi Asomugha) in ever, ever, ever
Posted by guttata
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 4:30 pm to
You honestly believe Tenn will be better than the #4 defense in the country next year? I guess time will tell.
Posted by NorfolkVATiger
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 4:35 pm to
Kiffin sucked in the NFL - that's just a tad different than sucking at Iowa State.

Pete Carroll sucked in the NFL, and Nick Saban didn't exactly set it on fire. So did Steve Spurier, and Bobby Petrino. None of them ever sucked at a second-rate college - in fact Spurrier and Petrino took a couple of crappy schools and won conference championships with them (Duke and Louisville, respectively).

Kiffin might not succeed at UT, but him failing at the Raiders doesn't mean much. On the other hand, what CHizik did at Iowa State - leaving them worse than he found them - is a huge red flag.
This post was edited on 12/15/08 at 4:37 pm
Posted by TTC
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 4:36 pm to
Their wives
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

Kiffin's dad will be dead before a current freshman is a senior.
OK, Kiffin doesn't have any experience as a head coach.
The Tamps 2 doesn't necessarily work that great against a spread offense. Tenn doesn't have the athletes to run the Tampa 2 either.


Both teams will run a Tampa Two. Chizik studied under Kiffin(Elder) at Tampa Bay.

Tampa Two is a good scheme and I am sure both coaches will do ok with it against the spread.

BTW, which version of the spread are you referring to: spread option, spread run, spread-pass and so on.
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 5:21 pm to
Kiffin did not even have control of his staff at Oakland (wanted to fire the DC, Davis said no). He was set up to fail.
Posted by Roovelroe
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 5:27 pm to
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Pete Carroll sucked in the NFL, and Nick Saban didn't exactly set it on fire. So did Steve Spurier, and Bobby Petrino. None of them ever sucked at a second-rate college - in fact Spurrier and Petrino took a couple of crappy schools and won conference championships with them (Duke and Louisville, respectively).


Well said and I agree totally.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 5:55 pm to
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Petrino took a couple of crappy schools and won conference championships with them (Duke and Louisville, respectively).



Since I'm usually slamming him on TD, the West Virginia Midget Demon took a 6-5 Toldedo team and made them a 9-2 (losses to Central Michigan and Navy) MAC C0-Champ before "Sabaning" to Michigan State.

Posted by NorfolkVATiger
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Posted on 12/15/08 at 6:46 pm to
Forgot about Saban's stop at Toledo. Good point.
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