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re: What in the hell is Texas Tech thinking with this new hire?

Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

Your position is:

1. This coach was a good recruiter in high school (likely because of skirting the rules)

2. This means he won't be a good recruiter in college?



No

It means he won't be worth a shite as a coach in college




Posted by TheTexasTiger7
Dallas - Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2018
9387 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 12:58 pm to
You say firing him for 5-3 but that’s without context. The team was struggling mightily, and people have wanted Wells gone since last year he was never a good fit. That 5-3 record is very misleading there were numerous problems.

Your point about Kingsbury is dumb seeing he was never a good recruiter, and wasn’t the right fit for a college job.

Yes numerous high schools in the state are raving about this hire. Numerous high schools in the state, the Texas High School Coaches Association, as well as coaches around the state have tweeted about it, and are raving about it.

Stop spewing shite out of your arse, you have no idea what you’re talking about and I guarantee I know more about this stuff than you do. Hit me again with another one of your arguments bro. Your last post makes me know that your opinion on this matter doesn’t mean Jack shite. Thanks for your time.
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 12:59 pm
Posted by biscuitsngravy
Tejas, north America
Member since Jan 2011
3780 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:05 pm to
it's a great hire actually.. a perfect fit. He's a recruiting machine, with deep ties to texas high school coaches, who was originally hired by Matt Rhule, was the players coach for coach when he left to Carolina and was kept on by Aranda. He's highly regarded all across the state. He's already landed three commits and extended more offers in two days than the prior coach in 3 years. He was UTSA first choice before going with Traylor.

Matt Rhule talked to the search committee and highly recommended him as did Aranda who held a press conference to discuss him after he left. Splashy hires aren't always the best.
This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 1:08 pm
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47673 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:07 pm to
you don't break through to the other side at Texas Tech based on some coup d'etat in recruiting

you do it through x's and o's

name a Texas Tech coach who's done something because of recruiting
Posted by thegambler
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
2049 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:08 pm to
Mike Leach didn't play college football and he did quite well for Texas Tech
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466946 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

you don't break through to the other side at Texas Tech based on some coup d'etat in recruiting

you do it through x's and o's

Matt Wells and Kliff Kinsbury just proved your "Xs and Os" theory wrong.

quote:

name a Texas Tech coach who's done something because of recruiting

The only elite year they ever had was b/c Leach got a 4-star Qb (Harrell) and 4-star WR (Crabtree)

You seem to think TTU thinks it can out-talent the Big12. It cannot in it's current formation, but may be able to once UT/OU leaves. Regardless, the plan is to out-recruit what they have been doing post-Leach, which is achievable with their current hire.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47673 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:17 pm to
TexaS HIGH school coaches tweeted about it!


quote:

I guarantee I know more about this stuff than you do.


sounds good man! You keep on with that!



let me guess, 5-3 with Wells is "bad" but you'll be arguing 3-7 with this new guy is "progress" or whatnot


quote:

people have wanted Wells gone since last year he was never a good fit.


Okay! that's not some subjective bullshite right there! You mean a bunch of championship wrestling fan dads were back in the stands drunk and yelling out of their asses about shite they have no clue about.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47673 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

Mike Leach didn't play college football and he did quite well for Texas Tech



Mike Leach played sanctioned rugby in college


he played a sport in college instead of eating 7k donuts at the student union
Posted by TheTexasTiger7
Dallas - Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2018
9387 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:23 pm to
You’re making yourself look worse and worse dude. Your opinion on this matter clearly means jack squat. If you want to dog some other programs hire, know what you’re talking about first dude that’s all I’m saying. You telling me that coaches in the state aren’t raving about this hire tells me everything I need to know. That statement is literally false. So stop spewing shite out of your arse.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47673 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

you don't break through to the other side at Texas Tech based on some coup d'etat in recruiting

you do it through x's and o's

Matt Wells and Kliff Kinsbury just proved your "Xs and Os" theory wrong.



I knew I was dealing with the no accountability 400K post guy as soon as it took me 3 seconds to realize you had typed up nothing but some words with no logic tied to them
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47673 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

You seem to think TTU thinks it can out-talent the Big12.



No

That's exactly the opposite of what I said


As usual though, you got a post out of it and you'll be hitting half a billion nonsensical posts in about seven more months

you'll be a legend
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466946 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

That's exactly the opposite of what I said

This isn't shocking, but I think you misunderstood.

My comment was about scale.

TTU just did 2 straight X's and Os coaches and they haven't done well.

TTU is trying to get better recruits in. You seem to think this will fail because you think they won't get good enough recruits. The question though, is, will they get better recruits than what KK/Wells were able to do?
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47673 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

TheTexasTiger7



quote:

You’re making yourself look worse and worse dude. Your opinion on this matter clearly means jack squat. If you want to dog some other programs hire, know what you’re talking about first dude that’s all I’m saying. You telling me that coaches in the state aren’t raving about this hire tells me everything I need to know. That statement is literally false. So stop spewing shite out of your arse.





well, the OP has 30 upvotes and 0 downvotes, so I guess making myself look bad is something I'll learn to live with


you should run on over to the OP and downvote me real fast


This post was edited on 11/10/21 at 1:36 pm
Posted by TheTexasTiger7
Dallas - Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2018
9387 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:37 pm to
You care about upvotes and downvotes on a online Internet forum? Must not have the best life going on to take solace in what people behind a screen upvote and downvote you.

I’ve also seen about 15 people arguing against your initial points. You do you man. Here I’ll give you an upvote in your post, since you care so much about your ratio!!!
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47673 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

You care about upvotes and downvotes on a online Internet forum?



my actual favorite OP's are when I've got 200 downvotes

but you're the one who said I was making myself look bad, so the nearest proof to the opposite was that massive upvote thing at the OP

chicken is a smart man to put that there
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
33280 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:46 pm to
It’s an out of the box higher but Tech and Lubbock are out of the box places

He’s a great coach and I’m rooting for him. He’s very well liked and Rhule and Aranda swore by him.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47673 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 1:46 pm to
I hope you and Texas Tech will be happy together


I'm going to take a vacation in January, and I'm not sure where yet, but Lubbock is not on the list
Posted by TheTexasTiger7
Dallas - Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2018
9387 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 2:28 pm to
You’re still replying to me, after I’ve completely stopped? I must still be in your head man, as well as Texas Tech. I don’t care about Texas Tech just like to point out when people don’t know what they are talking about. You have made that clear. I also do not give a frick you’re going on vacation. Thank you. Stop replying to me, this conversation has been over.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34163 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 2:44 pm to
Arguably the most successful HC in TTU history is Miss. St.'s current HC. He did not play football in college. In fact, the first thing he did upon graduating college was enter law school to earn a JD. After law school he coached at tiny schools and even for a football team in Finland!!! He eventually began working with Hal Mumme and worked his way up the coaching ladder with Mumme. He was the OC at Kentucky and for one year at Oklahoma before getting the TTU job. I would say that is a bit of a non-traditional route to the HC job. The second most successful HC there was Spike Dykes...who also cam from a Texas HS football background.

McGuire was a successful HC coach in TX for several years before landing on a college staff. Clearly he was brought into help recruiting more than anything else. Apparently he was respected enough in that dept. to be retained by Aranda.

Since Leach was fired after the 2009 season TTU has been searching for over 10 years to regain some level of that consistency...under three different HCs. They haven't. It's not a glamor job, so it may take a bit of thinking outside of the box for them to have success. What do they have to lose if it doesn't work?
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47673 posts
Posted on 11/10/21 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

You’re still replying to me, after I’ve completely stopped?


I don't have a hidden camera above you, so I wasn't sure

quote:

I must still be in your head man, as well as Texas Tech


Exactly. I cannot get you and Texas Tech out of my head. Try as I might, I just can't get it done.

quote:

I also do not give a frick you’re going on vacation.


I think you do actually.


quote:

Stop replying to me, this conversation has been over.


I will when you stop replying to me.
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