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re: What does the Schiano mess say about Ohio State?

Posted on 11/26/17 at 10:25 pm to
Posted by TennesseeFan25
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 10:25 pm to
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Convenient how you left out that Tom Bradley also testified under oath that Schiano never told him of seeing Sandusky's crimes, which is what McCreary claimed Bradley told him of.


Why would Schiano not pursue a suit then if that's the case? The rumors that Schiano saw something and said something started with someone. Those rumors were spread in Mcqueary testimony. Those rumors are obviously detrimental to Schiano, especially with his no nonsense personality as he is portrayed, why would he not want to do everything possible to ensure those words were not in the air for people to consider.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 10:32 pm to
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Why would Schiano not pursue a suit then if that's the case?
Pursue a case against whom? McQueary?
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Those rumors were spread in Mcqueary testimony.
Even if 100% false, that's not anywhere near meeting a standard for defamation/
Posted by TennesseeFan25
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 10:37 pm to
McQueary and whomever else McQueary identified. That's a huge claim to make, and with his no nonsense background vehemently going after anyone that made that claim would seem to be the only course.

I wonder why he didn't though... hmm....
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 10:39 pm to
Well you people should be as happy as a 3 dicked dog that you’ll be keeping your DC since he’s made of such high moral fiber.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 10:47 pm to
What if Schiano is telling the truth and he didn't know about Sandusky?

If so, he's being lynched by the media....
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 10:47 pm to
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pkloa


Penn St. DGAF, they hired Franklin on the heals of the Sandusky mess.
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 10:58 pm to
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What if Schiano is telling the truth and he didn't know about Sandusky?

If so, he's being lynched by the media....


Then he should have been more observant in his interactions at Penn State is that was happening at such an extreme level and he had no clue. People there made statements leading us to believe he did though, as he likely should have.

He also seems to be widely regarded as a dickhead, maybe if his personality was different, his denial would mean more.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 10:58 pm to
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No, there's no proof. It's a he said / she said situation.


There may not be absolute proof but there is evidence, both for and against Schiano.

Hiring a football coach isn’t the same as trying him in a court of law. There’s no innocent until proven guilty standard. If anyone on this board applied for a job when a quick google search of their name revealed allegations of covering for a pedophile then they don’t get the job. I don’t understand anyone that holds a football coach to a lower standard than an assistant manager at some retail store.

Schiano was at Penn State when Sandusky was raping children and a fellow coach had testified that Schiano witnessed a rape and didn’t report it. That’s enough to disqualify him from a coaching position at any respectable school.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:03 pm to
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I wonder why he didn't though... hmm....
Well a simple understanding of the legal standards of defamation would he was good place for you to help your wonder.
This post was edited on 11/26/17 at 11:04 pm
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:05 pm to
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If so, he's being lynched by the media.


He isn’t being lynched by the media.

The people that support UT don’t want him as their head coach.
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:05 pm to
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Well a simple understanding of the legal standards of defamation would he was good place for you to help your wonder.


In civil law

What the victim must prove to establish that defamation occurred

The law of defamation varies from state to state, but there are some generally accepted rules. If you believe you are have been "defamed," to prove it you usually have to show there's been a statement that is all of the following:
published
false
injurious
unprivileged

With the huge uproar supporting him all of those things are certainly easy to prove, since you are all so sure he is innocent. At the very least it shows he attempted to get the rumors out of the air by fighting them.

Just stick by your dude, be honest about it that you guys don't give a frick about employing him regardless of his past.

We do not support him though and won't have him as our sitting head coach... But we are willing to pay him?
This post was edited on 11/26/17 at 11:07 pm
Posted by ExpoTiger
Member since Jul 2014
7303 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:06 pm to
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Sandusky was pretty cavalier with his pederasty and lots of people knew. He was caught in the act multiple times over several years and even brought boys on road trips. Anyone that didn’t know, should’ve. I would never hire anyone from that time period at Penn State.


THIS. Child. Rape. We are talking about something so egregious and vile that everyone in proximity is poisoned. There has to be the most severe consequences. It is unfortunate for anyone on that staff that had no idea what is happening( if there is such a person) we are talking about grown men that work closely with eachother. They are around eachother more than their own families. Don’t piss on my feet and tell me it’s raining. They didn’t not know anything. This is what happens. This is what should happen. This is not about tattoos for memorabilia. I don’t give a damn about depositions. They knew some weird shite was going on. They put an old mans legacy and a game before the welfare of underprivileged kids. I’m no SJW but jesus christ.....
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:19 pm to
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Just stick by your dude, be honest about it that you guys don't give a frick about employing him regardless of his past.
Up until this story, I was relatively indifferent about Schiano. He had done a good job, but he didn't seem irreplaceable anything.

And since you apparently didn't notice the "vol" from my username, I went to graduate school at UTK. So I'm more ashamed of the groupthink condemnation of Schiano by Volunteer fans than anything else.

I honestly thought they were just protesting the hire in general, which was far more understandable than running with this.
This post was edited on 11/26/17 at 11:24 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133652 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:27 pm to
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People there made statements leading us to believe he did though,
From what I've read it wasn't "people" as in plural.

One person claimed Schiano once walked in on Sandusky boinking a boy. That person was the original whistle blower who ended up getting paid a ton of money for wrongful termination by Penn State.

Schiano has repeatedly said the claim that he saw Sandusky doing a boy was a lie.

So, who to believe? I really don't know.
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:30 pm to
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One person claimed Schiano once walked in on Sandusky boinking a boy. That person was the original whistle blower who ended up getting paid a ton of money for wrongful termination by Penn State.


Negative, Mcqueary stated he was told by another assistant that Schiano did that etc. McQueary is the one who testified about it though. So there are multiple people regardless.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:36 pm to
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McQueary is the one who testified about it though. So there are multiple people regardless.
And Bradley denied it.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:37 pm to
Well he could always get a job as Notre Dames head coach. Catholics have no problems with pedophiles.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133652 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:43 pm to
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Negative, Mcqueary stated he was told by another assistant that Schiano did that
So if one person claims 100 people told him something does that mean 100 people knew or does it mean one person claimed 100 people knew? That "assistant" has never come forward as far as I can find.

My original point remains true until proven otherwise. One person has testified that Schiano knew about Sandusky. I have not read anywhere that multiple people have accused Schiano of knowing.
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 11:51 pm to
So McQueary is the liar, call Penn State, they can get their money back they had paid him.

Posted by TrueLefty
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:50 am to
Maybe your user name is telling you you are a Russian and might be a spy! See what I did there? I changed it to make you look like a bad guy.
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