re: Update

That doesn't make any sense at all, but thanks for the the attempted clarification.

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BigShotBobert

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Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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I like the new negatiger lines these days. Miles is responsible for the bad offenses, but played no part in the good offenses of 2005-2007. Sounds like John Kerry.

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how bout dems in general

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players have said the same thing.

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On one hand, if crowton is a problem on the offense you would expect to have miles step in.

On the other hand, if that is true, he should have got rid of him 2 years ago.

But then again, from what i understand, he did try to get rid of him but had his hands tied. All of this put together would some what explain this:::

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Miles has reached his hand in the bread basket a little more each year. It's been a steady progression, and if you think about it, you can notice it.In 07 Crowton had a little more slack in his leash. Since then, for whatever reason, Miles has been all in when it comes to offensive philosophy, prep, and game management

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I would imagine Charles Hanagrif and Gordy are pretty close to the LSU program and the ins and outs. I wonder what is their opinion if Miles has influence in the offense and if so, in what ways?

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I know for a fact this is true, I don't want to say a player's name on here, however, Miles and Crowton argue about the plays during the game...The Tennessee debacle at the end of the game, one big argument through the headset, this is absolutely true info...

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I did hear that they argued over the headset at the end of the 2009 Ole Miss game. We were in field goal range and Crowton called a couple pass plays, Jefferson got sacked, and we were out of FG range. Miles and his BIG 10, 1970s offense wouldn't have thrown the ball in that situation.

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Now, to say someone else may be better, I can't answer that...If Miles won't keep his hand off the OC and play-calling, it won't matter if we get Leach or Chow, the same thing will happen

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There weren't any game/clock management issues under Jimbo. I don't think LSU and Jamarcus/Flynn could come back in the 4th quarter so many times if there were issues with game clock. That seems to be another product of the Miles-Crowton dynamic.

Did Miles have any sort of control of the '06 offense? I dont think anyone is complaining about that. '07 either. Oh by the way, we won 2 Sugar Bowls. IMO I don't think Miles had much of anything to do with the play calling, philosophy, etc... This year may be an anomaly in that because of the personnel. Our only real strength the past 2-3 seasons has been running the ball. It's a complete waste of athletes, and I'm just as frustrated as anyone, but maybe we should wait till next year to make a judgement on who is in control of the offense.

For the record, I AM hoping for an OC change... :geauxtigers: :geauxtigers: :geauxtigers: :geauxtigers:

Belowpar, how do you know that Miles hasn't been contacted by Michigan?

How could anyone know if a phone conversation occurred or not? Does your wife know every phone call you receive or make? No, of course not...

So, while I trust your information is based on what "you know", I just don't see how anyone could make such a claim "He hasn't been contacted by Michigan"..that would be next to impossible to know one way or the another IMHO.


Miles can be a good poker player...

Miles seems like an ethical person from my perspective, and if he is truly handcuffing Crowton, then why would he allow the offensive coordinator to make so much money? Even if he is not in control of his assistant's contracts, he must have some input on how vital their contributions are when it comes time for contract negotiations.

I think Crowton has shown the same trend everywhere he has coached, and some how, some way he is responsible for the regression of productivity. Whether it is his job as QB coach, his game planning or his play calling, he has been subpar after 07. It has been 3 years of bad offense, and something needs to get fixed. I think he may be more successfull with a more intelligent, gifted QB, but I would hate to see another year of predictable, inconsistent offense, when everyone's hopes are high with the incoming QB.