re: Update on Riley:

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It's Urban? Is that what you're saying?

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Vanilla Ice said Urban heels his shite down the drain after shitting in the shower.

Saban it is, let's roll

Vanilla was just spotted panhandling outside the rec, campus police en route

He's been spotted wearing nothing but a purple and gold loin cloth, he's in an all out Sprint

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Yeah of course it's all of that but that doesn't change my premise. OU is his preference or else this would be a done deal. They match, they get him.

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I'm inclined to believe the same. We really don't have any indicators either way- except for the [heavily weighted] exception that he was promoted from within. If Riley had been OC at some other school and got his first HC gig at OU, then it wouldn't be a factor in any "loyalty" equation. Noting he is not an OU alum (TTU).

But objectively... actually histrionically... my brain is telling me this is not true. Very few coaches ever made it to the top at their first HC gig. Change is part of the life of a coach to boot. The greats had to move to the right situation at the right time to be great. Certainly Riley, and his agent, are very aware of this. Woody Hayes (if you except he went from Miami OH to tOSU) and Tom Osborne are the only two I can think of off hand.

The counter to my own point would be he's been damn close at OU. Those same greats I mentioned weren't that close at their previous stops as HC. Does that mean he may think he can defy [most of] history at OU?

So when I put Panhandle TX boy, an alum at TTU, in only his 7th year (5 as HC) at OU and wonder if the ties that bind are that much stronger that what history says is the path to the road to be considered great, or at least get a NC, and I find those ties to be lacking.

Saban came in and changed LSU. He was our forever coach. He did win a NC. He left. And then even later joined a conference foe. Those ties aren't as strong as we think they are.

I heard the same thing from my source inside OU. Was told Castiglione is balking currently and the overwhelming sentiment is that OU won’t match the LSU offer. Goes along with their history of not overpaying a head coach and Castiglione is taking a serious roll of the dice believing that OUs brand will sell itself as it always has prior to the move to the SEC.

One giant detail I heard from my source that I stated in my topic a few days ago was that the $76-$80 million dollar buyout to leave the Big 12 before 2025 is weighing heavily on OU.

The consensus in the athletic department at OU is there is already a lot of money they are fronting out and there’s no immediate return just because they’re entering the SEC (for instance if they do not do well their first season or two)

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One giant detail I heard from my source that I stated in my topic a few days ago was that the $76-$80 million dollar buyout to leave the Big 12 before 2025 is weighing heavily on OU.

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I’d normally just assume this would be settled by the school and the league…but I don’t think that’s the case. The big 12 is pissed and I believe they intend to hold Oklahoma and Texas to that amount.

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I heard the same thing from my source inside OU. Was told Castiglione is balking currently and the overwhelming sentiment is that OU won’t match the LSU offer. Goes along with their history of not overpaying a head coach and Castiglione is taking a serious roll of the dice believing that OUs brand will sell itself as it always has prior to the move to the SEC.

One giant detail I heard from my source that I stated in my topic a few days ago was that the $76-$80 million dollar buyout to leave the Big 12 before 2025 is weighing heavily on OU.

The consensus in the athletic department at OU is there is already a lot of money they are fronting out and there’s no immediate return just because they’re entering the SEC (for instance if they do not do well their first season or two)

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Josh Heuple will work just fine for them