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re: To those crapping on Harrell, what/who are you looking for, exactly?
Posted on 12/26/20 at 9:09 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 12/26/20 at 9:09 am to SlowFlowPro
Does anyone stop to think that Harrell can learn the run game from coach E? Everyone's favorite Joe Brady did, made a pretty damn good offense.
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Posted on 12/26/20 at 9:10 am to MrWiseGuy
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I want Calloway because he’s as respected as there is among the coaches on the 2020 staff. Everyone (LSU 2020 coaches) believes Russ will be a superstar in the coaching industry.
Yet he has 1/10 the resume of Harrell. What, exactly, is this trust based in? Some propaganda-like press?
Munoz was Calloway last year (due to similar propaganda) and he's out of a job only one year after getting a big boy job.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 9:12 am to lurkr
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Does anyone stop to think that Harrell can learn the run game from coach E? Everyone's favorite Joe Brady did, made a pretty damn good offense.
i was fine with pairing E with a better PGC b/c he had no ego about shite, but theoretically this could work, too
it's not like E is going to be apart from the team or coaches. he just has a more limited recruiting and gameday job
and this thread isn't a Harrel sunshine pump thread. i'm asking for realistic targets. so far we've gotten one guy who is less qualified than Harrell (Calloway) and one guy who isn't realistic (Sark). SEND ME THE UNICORNS
Posted on 12/26/20 at 9:18 am to Andychapman13
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I think you gotta go with a Spread/RPO combo,
And that’s what the Air Raid has evolved to. People say Air Raid and think it’s still the old Mike Leach system. But no, it’s not any longer. Dana, Riley, and Gundy has evolved it into Run/Pass balanced with RPO as the glue that meshes it together
Posted on 12/26/20 at 9:19 am to SlowFlowPro
Bc the relatively unknown is a blank slate upon which any manner of unrealistic bullshite can be written. The more known quantity had something negative written about him that one time. He didn’t have the statistically best unit in CFB as a coordinator either therefore HE SUCKS.
I’d be ok with Harrell. He can absolutely coach QBs.
I’d be ok with Harrell. He can absolutely coach QBs.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 9:19 am to SlowFlowPro
I'm in the Calloway camp from what I read about his career so far. He left an OC position that he was getting recognized in to be an analyst role at LSU. There has to be a reason behind it.
I'm all for the most experienced staff we can get, but they must get along and gamelan together. If you get Calloway, Harrell, and coach E working together however they are titled, I don't see a problem with it.
I'm all for the most experienced staff we can get, but they must get along and gamelan together. If you get Calloway, Harrell, and coach E working together however they are titled, I don't see a problem with it.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 9:20 am to SlowFlowPro
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Does anyone stop to think that Harrell can learn the run game from coach E? Everyone's favorite Joe Brady did, made a pretty damn good offense.
Our run game was great in 2019 solely because of Clyde. We didn't change shite this season and it showed.
I think E and our current offense lacks in run game adjustments, red zone scoring and 3rd down effencies. That has been my only gripe of the E offense.
So no I don't think Harrell can learn a run game scheme from E.
In 2018 E started Brosett over Clyde...
Not shitting on E but to think we had this perfect run game is laughable 2019 was tailored perfectly for Clyde. TDP and Emery aren't Clyde.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 9:21 am to Fus0623
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And that’s what the Air Raid has evolved to.
the air raid guys invented the RPO
Dana HOlgerson was running it in 2011 at WV
Posted on 12/26/20 at 9:23 am to Fus0623
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And that’s what the Air Raid has evolved to. People say Air Raid and think it’s still the old Mike Leach system. But no, it’s not any longer. Dana, Riley, and Gundy has evolved it into Run/Pass balanced with RPO as the glue that meshes it together
Sell me on this more, where can I read about it or how can you explain it to where it will work in the SEC. Big12 and Pac12 are way different bro! It’s not the Power Spread, otherwise we’d call it that, right?
Posted on 12/26/20 at 9:24 am to SlowFlowPro
You’re getting no replies because there are no unicorns. Harrell would be fine here. He has the knowledge, experience and ability to run a modern offense and adapt to his personnel. The factor that makes this potential hire really fly is our talent. Above any he’s ever had.
The biggest question to me is our D coordinator. Everything considered- our offense wasn’t our main issue last season. Some areas of concern that a guy like Harrell can address. We have to bounce back defensively though. That was the king of all dumpster fires.
The biggest question to me is our D coordinator. Everything considered- our offense wasn’t our main issue last season. Some areas of concern that a guy like Harrell can address. We have to bounce back defensively though. That was the king of all dumpster fires.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 9:25 am to Fus0623
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But no, it’s not any longer. Dana, Riley, and Gundy has evolved it into Run/Pass balanced with RPO as the glue that meshes it together
Don't forget Briles
Posted on 12/26/20 at 9:25 am to Magician2
Clyde had a pretty damn good offensive line last year too. To think Joe and Clyde did all of that on their own is just not true.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 9:27 am to SlowFlowPro
I’m not against Harrell, I don’t really have a front runner for offense. Having Harrell and Calloway doesn’t seem to be far fetched. I don’t know why they couldn’t have both. I feel like Calloway could probably add some things into Harrells offense and they could be ok together. I’m not claiming to be a know it all but I think they could coexist and put together a nice offense.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 9:27 am to SlowFlowPro
I would take Tom Manning, the OC at Iowa State. It’s Matt Campbell’s offensive philosophy, but he evolved it this year with a focus on creating mismatches.
Several times this year they ran a hurry up 4 wide with 3 athletic TE’s split out and it gave defenses fits. That type of innovation and attacking is what a lot of people want to see in an OC.
The only question is how much control does Campbell still have in the game planning and play calling, but it sounds like Campbell brought him back to hand over the keys to the O. Not sure if that’s true or not.
Several times this year they ran a hurry up 4 wide with 3 athletic TE’s split out and it gave defenses fits. That type of innovation and attacking is what a lot of people want to see in an OC.
The only question is how much control does Campbell still have in the game planning and play calling, but it sounds like Campbell brought him back to hand over the keys to the O. Not sure if that’s true or not.
This post was edited on 12/26/20 at 9:28 am
Posted on 12/26/20 at 9:28 am to lurkr
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To think Joe and Clyde did all of that on their own is just not true.
They didn't do it on their own but they could have done it without Brady. Brady, however, could not have done it without them. If we had Harrell last year, then we likely win it all. Burrow just needed a competent coordinator and CEH made chicken salad out of chicken shite quite often. He also gave us the flexibility in the passing game that really helped and we wouldn't have in a power scheme
Posted on 12/26/20 at 9:35 am to SlowFlowPro
And Brady learned the running game from Coach E and they meshed it with the passing attack. You can see the Saints running game get better the last 3 seasons.
Funny how LSU and Saints coaches spend more time together in the off season and the weaknesses in each teams offense drastically improves.
Step back and look at just that, then recognize all of the players involved.
Funny how LSU and Saints coaches spend more time together in the off season and the weaknesses in each teams offense drastically improves.
Step back and look at just that, then recognize all of the players involved.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 9:39 am to lurkr
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And Brady learned the running game from Coach E and they meshed it with the passing attack. You can see the Saints running game get better the last 3 seasons.
Did you just insinuate that Peyton is learning from LSU and Ensminger about running an offense? And you typed that out with all seriousness?
Posted on 12/26/20 at 9:43 am to Andychapman13
This is Urban Meyer with Graham Harrell on FOX Saturday kickoff breaking down what the Air Raid has become.
Urban also speaks on how when he came into the SEC, everyone thought his system wouldn’t work
LINK
Urban also speaks on how when he came into the SEC, everyone thought his system wouldn’t work
LINK
Posted on 12/26/20 at 9:44 am to geauxjo
And the Saints have had highly ranked rushing attacks far outside that time frame.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 9:45 am to SlowFlowPro
People pump Brady like he’s God. He’s not. The Panthers are competitive, but they have a losing record. Last season was the perfect blend of scheme, coaching, and talent. We had next level talent at every position: Belitnekoff Award winner, Heisman winner, Lombardi Trophy for the O line, incredible RB. First rounders everywhere! That kind of talent makes a lot of schemes and coaches look great.
The coaches are very important, but o line talent is lacking. We have young talent at QB, but Burrow was a once in a lifetime player. His dedication, leadership, work ethic, and toughness are unmatched.
Our problem this year is depth and talent drop off. Until we can have a stockpile of recruits and a culture that encourages players to return, X’s and O’s coaching won’t be the primary issue.
The biggest thing we need to look for in coaching is guys who can create a culture where players don’t want to leave. That’s what Clemson and Bama have done. Acquire talent and keep talent. That’s what creates a long term standard of winning.
The coaches are very important, but o line talent is lacking. We have young talent at QB, but Burrow was a once in a lifetime player. His dedication, leadership, work ethic, and toughness are unmatched.
Our problem this year is depth and talent drop off. Until we can have a stockpile of recruits and a culture that encourages players to return, X’s and O’s coaching won’t be the primary issue.
The biggest thing we need to look for in coaching is guys who can create a culture where players don’t want to leave. That’s what Clemson and Bama have done. Acquire talent and keep talent. That’s what creates a long term standard of winning.
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