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re: Tim Fletcher was told LSU will fire Gary Crowton tomorrow
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:00 pm to LSURussian
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:00 pm to LSURussian
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Ok, in that case, is TAF interfering in the athletic department every time it writes a check to pay a coach's supplementary salary or to fund infrastructure improvements?
I assume (don't know for sure), that TAF's commitments to the athletic department do not contain any conditions of performance, personnel decisions, etc. Therefore, IMO, even implicit threats are interfering. Now, I'm not saying they shouldn't keep him informed of future funding levels / shortfalls, but tying it to a specific personnel decision is walking a fine line. This is somewhat similar to what got Auburn in trouble.
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Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:02 pm to Doc Fenton
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Cue whatever the Mormon version of "Smoke Laval's eating jalapeno cheese fries at Sammy's" is.
Gary Crowton's eating rice crispy squares at temple with Heavenly Father.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:05 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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Thanks for this. Unsubstantiated rumors and name calling deserve more respect than you showed.
Unsure what you mean by this, but I have not resorted to any name calling
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:07 pm to ScottAndrew
Sorry 500 at $30,000.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:09 pm to Chicot
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Does their livelihood rely on the success or failure of the football team?
You don't think Motel Chains and other businesses make more money when LSU is successful?
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:10 pm to ApexTiger
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LSU can not slip from Elite status
already have
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:10 pm to ForeLSU
quote:I don't think there are any performance conditions from TAF. But TAF can't give money to the athletic department which it doesn't have.
I assume (don't know for sure), that TAF's commitments to the athletic department do not contain any conditions of performance, personnel decisions, etc.
quote:I would be very surprised if General Richard or any TAF Board member went to Alleva and made threats or even demands. General Richard would probably kick them off the board if they tried to do that, IMO.
Therefore, IMO, even implicit threats are interfering.
It would also surprise me (inside info here) if any event, or non-event, which would threaten the income stream (contributions) from members was kept a secret from the Athletic Director. That would almost be a dereliction of of the fiduciary responsibilities of TAF. Especially if the decrease in donations might threaten compliance with existing legal commitments, including outstanding debt obligations and coaches' compensation contracts.
This post was edited on 1/7/10 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:12 pm to craignettles
I can only guess who "yall" going to blame when the offense is 100 - 120 next year... friggin idiots!!!
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:12 pm to TheDoc
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LSU can not slip from Elite status
already have
No we haven't... Has usc lost elite status? OU?
Michigan? Miami?
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:12 pm to LC412000
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Thanks for this. Unsubstantiated rumors and name calling deserve more respect than you showed.
Unsure what you mean by this, but I have not resorted to any name calling
A failed attempt at sarcastic humor.
I was trying to say that much of the thread is rumors and name calling, not by you. The idea of apologizing for taking a thread with little to no substance in a different direction was funny to me. No offense intended in any way.
It was galant of you.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:13 pm to ApexTiger
Good move but I still have and will always have my concerns with coach Miles.
This post was edited on 1/7/10 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:15 pm to LSURussian
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It would not surprise me (inside info here) if any event, or non-event, which would threaten the income stream (contributions) from members was kept a secret from the Athletic Director. That would almost be a dereliction of of the fiduciary responsibilities of TAF. Especially if the decrease in donations might threaten compliance with existing legal commitments, including outstanding debt obligations and coaches' compensation contracts.
It would NOT surprise you if it WAS kept secret from the AD? ...If the income stream was threatened?
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:16 pm to Dijkstra
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Cue whatever the Mormon version of "Smoke Laval's eating jalapeno cheese fries at Sammy's" is.
Gary Crowton's eating rice crispy squares at temple with Heavenly Father.
Hmmm, makes sense.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:18 pm to LSURussian
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That would almost be a dereliction of of the fiduciary responsibilities of TAF.
but wouldn't withholding money be basically the same thing (and by withholding, I mean personally not sending a contribution I might send otherwise?) I think it is a very fine line, although I'll be jumping for joy to see Crowton gone.
This post was edited on 1/7/10 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:19 pm to Cookieman
quote:Thanks. I've corrected my statement. Forgot the "NOT."
It would NOT surprise you if it WAS kept secret from the AD?
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:21 pm to ApexTiger
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Michigan? Miami?
yes, I think so
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:22 pm to LSURussian
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Thanks. I've corrected my statement. Forgot the "NOT."
Ok..im still confused. You think TAF kept the possible or actual loss of money secret from the AD?
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:25 pm to Cookieman
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Gary Crowton's eating JELLO at temple with Heavenly Father
fixed it for you. Mormons are crazy for Jello.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:26 pm to ForeLSU
quote:No. Members contribute voluntarily. They can also NOT contribute voluntarily. TAF legally has to be a separate entity from any department in the university. If TAF can't meet its financial obligations, LSU is not on the hook. This includes the bond sales and repayment for the new Alex Box as well as all of its other obligations.
but wouldn't withholding money be basically the same thing
I don't think TAF is in any danger of going bankrupt. I'm just saying if people are assuming anyone from TAF went to Alleva with the purpose of making demands or threats, they are wrong. Meetings between TAF and the athletic department on financial matters are routine.
Any perceived weaknesses or impediments in TAF's cash flow or support from its members is communicated as a matter of courtesy and implicit obligation, not as a threat.
Posted on 1/7/10 at 2:32 pm to ApexTiger
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No we haven't..
5 and 4 loss teams aren't elite
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