re: The REAL reason Les is asking for an 8 win clause

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This is perfectly legit and totally understandable, esp. looking at the years Brown, Meyer, and Saban had, and the grief he took over '08 and '09, and the first six games (wins) of this 11-2 season. I support his request 100%.

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You guys are weak, Miles needs to decide if he wants to be LSU's coach or MI coach,period. Two 8 win seasons in a row and everyone including you will be calling for his head b/c 8-4 guareentees the Indy bowl. Move own Miles its apparent that MI is home for you and BR will never be that place.

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The REAL reason Les is asking for an 8 win clause

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I've said it once, I'll say it again: an "eight win" clause is a nonsensical, unenforceable fantasy.

From a contractual perspective, it is one of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard.

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It's the only conclusion that makes sense!!!

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I don't think so. Miles has too much want to win to be satisfy with 8 wins.

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I just think this whole idea of a 8 win clause and how it is being discussed is internet bullshite.

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then why is wwl reporting it's the sticking point?

If LSU agrees to that clause we just became OLE MISS, MISS STATE, KENTUCKY and VANDY.

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Jesus, people here are true idiots. This isn't about a clause in the contract its about full administrative support of the way he runs the football program. He isn't saying that he wants to win 8 games a year. He means when the occasional down year happens that there is understanding that its par for the course in big time college football. How can people not understand this?

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While I agree with this sentiment how could you put this in to a contract? The only way is to have a clause that says his contract automatically gets rolled over if he wins 8 games. This is a very bad proposition.

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Jesus, people here are true idiots. This isn't about a clause in the contract its about full administrative support of the way he runs the football program. He isn't saying that he wants to win 8 games a year. He means when the occasional down year happens that there is understanding that its par for the course in big time college football. How can people not understand this?

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First of all, numbnuts, I was responding to the title of this thread: "8 win clause." The term clause implies that this notion is being incorporated into a cotract. Which is stupid. It will never occur. LSU should NEVER bind itself contractually to coach who wins a meager eight games.

Second, let's imagine you are correct: Miles just wants informal "assurances" from the AD. How the hell would you enforce that? If Miles goes 8-4/7-5 next season and LSU fires him, what would Miles do, exactly? Whine that LSU broke its promise? Cry?

The informal assurances mean nothing.

Because it makes to much sense for the idiots to understand.

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Jesus, people here are true idiots. This isn't about a clause in the contract its about full administrative support of the way he runs the football program. He isn't saying that he wants to win 8 games a year. He means when the occasional down year happens that there is understanding that its par for the course in big time college football. How can people not understand this?

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how are you going to assure administrative backing? what if alleva isn't here in two years?