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re: Taggart to UF now being rumored
Posted on 11/25/17 at 12:44 am to Corporal Beavis
Posted on 11/25/17 at 12:44 am to Corporal Beavis
Western Kentucky was like on a 22 game losing streak when he took over. USF has won 2 games when took over. Each year his teams improved.
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Posted on 11/25/17 at 12:47 am to bisonduck
He also mentioned that Charlie Strong is a strong candidate for Ole Miss which would be a home run for them imo
Posted on 11/25/17 at 12:48 am to bisonduck
He's basically a Coach O hire the way I look at it. He's done fine at other jobs but not excelled. Known for recruiting and not much else. He's not known for any offensive or defensive scheme, just recruiting.
Posted on 11/25/17 at 12:52 am to Corporal Beavis
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He's basically a Coach O hire the way I look at it. He's done fine at other jobs but not excelled.
O didn't do fine at any job and he damn sure didn't build any program from the ground up.
Posted on 11/25/17 at 12:52 am to Corporal Beavis
sweet melt
Posted on 11/25/17 at 12:53 am to Corporal Beavis
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What are the excuses for the other 6 seasons that he produced average or below average teams?
Do you recall how bad WKU and USF were when he took those jobs, or are you just reading Taggart's wikipedia bio?
You're probably equally unimpressed by PJ Fleck getting Western fricking Michigan to the Cotton Bowl.
Posted on 11/25/17 at 12:54 am to saintsfan22
Not as a head coach but he's done well as an assistant and interm. I guess you could say he built WKU from the ground up but USF was already a legit football program who had poor leadership before Taggart.
Posted on 11/25/17 at 12:55 am to TigersHuskers
I'd be melting a hell of a lot more if Florida got Frost or Kelly, both are far better coaches than Taggart
Posted on 11/25/17 at 12:59 am to Corporal Beavis
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but USF was already a legit football program who had poor leadership before Taggart.
USF ain't Florida where it's just mandated that they'll rise from the ashes. They had only even been D-1 for a little over a decade when Taggart got there.
This post was edited on 11/25/17 at 1:03 am
Posted on 11/25/17 at 1:03 am to saintsfan22
They've had better seasons than what Taggart put together, and the C-USA was a better conference that year Leavitt had them at #2 than the AAC now. USF also has more resources now than when Leavitt was coaching.
Posted on 11/25/17 at 1:08 am to Corporal Beavis
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They've had better seasons than what Taggart put together
When?
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and the C-USA was a better conference that year Leavitt had them at #2
They weren't in CUSA that year.
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USF also has more resources now than when Leavitt was coaching.
I'm sure they do but what does that have to do with anything?
Posted on 11/25/17 at 1:18 am to saintsfan22
Good point, they were actually in the Big East which is a far better conference than the current AAC. So I'd say that season by Leavitt is still more impressive than Taggarts one great season at USF. Do you really think Taggart is a great hire for UF? He hasn't proven anything other than he recruit and get media members to support him. Like I said, his biggest accomplishment is being this first of his skin color at all three coaching jobs. No championships or anything else cool
And of course the resources the coach has matters, if Taggart had more resources than Leavitt isn't Taggart more likely to succeed?
And of course the resources the coach has matters, if Taggart had more resources than Leavitt isn't Taggart more likely to succeed?
This post was edited on 11/25/17 at 1:30 am
Posted on 11/25/17 at 1:21 am to Corporal Beavis
Are you drunk?
Posted on 11/25/17 at 1:23 am to bisonduck
No, waiting for the iron bowl tomorrow. Wbu?
PS: I can't wait to hear Taggarts great achievement besides being the first black coach at WKU, USF and Oregon. While I'm amazed he was able to pull this off, I'm still waiting to see actual results on the football field
PS: I can't wait to hear Taggarts great achievement besides being the first black coach at WKU, USF and Oregon. While I'm amazed he was able to pull this off, I'm still waiting to see actual results on the football field
This post was edited on 11/25/17 at 1:40 am
Posted on 11/25/17 at 1:39 am to Corporal Beavis
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So I'd say that season by Leavitt is still more impressive than Taggarts one great season at USF.
Even though they immediately went on a 3 game losing steak to other average teams after reaching #2 in the country and finished 9-4? Being #2 was a program high point but not a better season than the only time they've finished ranked and with double digit wins.
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his skin color
STUNNED THIS CAME UP
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And of course the resources the coach has matters, if Taggart had more resources than Leavitt isn't Taggart more likely to succeed?
Leavitt used to work out of trailers and shite when they were getting the program started so I'm positive what Taggart had was better but Taggart didn't take over from Leavitt. He took over from Holtz. I highly doubt the resources blossomed overnight when they made that change.
Posted on 11/25/17 at 1:43 am to MF Doom
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He also mentioned that Charlie Strong is a strong candidate for Ole Miss which would be a home run for them imo
He's running out of chances to be a big time HC, I don't think he's gonna wanna waste possibly his last one at a school thats about to be hammered
Posted on 11/25/17 at 1:47 am to Corporal Beavis
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As an Oregon fan, you should be elated over the chance to redo your hire and get someone who has actual accomplishments other than skin color
Taggart went 7-1 in conference play and 11-2 in his last year at USF. One of those losses was to No 13 FSU. The other loss being to Temple, an in-conference team that also went 7-1 in conference play. He rebuilt USF after Holtz and he recruited that bulk of the team that narrowly lost to UCF tonight. Tell us again about how skin color is why he was hired at Oregon, though.
I think Frost will kill it, and I’d love to have him at UF but by several accounts he’s going back to his to Nebraska and not in play. Taggart, IMO, isn’t the slouch you present him to be.
This post was edited on 11/25/17 at 2:11 am
Posted on 11/25/17 at 1:52 am to Jorts R Us
Look at the years before his last year. He had one fairly impressive year at USF so let's not act like he was a savior at USF.
Show me where I said he got hired due to skin color dumb frick. I said it was his biggest accomplishment because I've heard that from multiple Florida fans and it's all over the web. No conference titles though. If you want to call me out for being a dumbass comment make sure I actually said/typed it before you call me out. Thug POS
If y'all weren't happy with McElwain you won't be happy with Taggart, I'd bet. Taggart will struggle to win the East against Kirby but I could see him consistently winning 8 or so games a year with a SEC championship caliber team every 4 years. I really doubt he dominates the East. I'm just not impressed by his resume at non power programs and believe someone like Mullen would do better
Show me where I said he got hired due to skin color dumb frick. I said it was his biggest accomplishment because I've heard that from multiple Florida fans and it's all over the web. No conference titles though. If you want to call me out for being a dumbass comment make sure I actually said/typed it before you call me out. Thug POS
If y'all weren't happy with McElwain you won't be happy with Taggart, I'd bet. Taggart will struggle to win the East against Kirby but I could see him consistently winning 8 or so games a year with a SEC championship caliber team every 4 years. I really doubt he dominates the East. I'm just not impressed by his resume at non power programs and believe someone like Mullen would do better
This post was edited on 11/25/17 at 2:03 am
Posted on 11/25/17 at 1:59 am to Corporal Beavis
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Show me where I said he got hired due to skin color dumb frick.
Then why make the comment his biggest accomplishment is skin color? At the very least you certainly implied that’s why he has gotten as far as he has. Spin it however you want, but the implication was pretty clear. But sure, I’m the thug POS.
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Look at the years before his last year. He had one fairly impressive year at USF so let's not act like he was a savior at USF.
Again, he had to rebuild after Skip Holtz. Did he do it as fast as Frost at UCF? No. Did he win the conference? No. That why I acknowledge Frost is better, but Frost isn’t in play by several accounts.
This post was edited on 11/25/17 at 2:02 am
Posted on 11/25/17 at 2:07 am to Corporal Beavis
So, if Taggart is a bad coach and he isn't getting jobs due to skin color, what's causing the "media hype train" behind him?
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