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So the ship tanks in 2 years. We fire O. Why promote Aranda? Why internal hire again?

Posted on 1/8/18 at 9:02 am
Posted by YoungManOldMan
Member since Dec 2017
1882 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 9:02 am
I'm sorry, I just don't see it. Instead of going out and getting a world class coach, we going to take retreads from a former staff?

I just don't see it. Aranda is a good coach but that doesn't make him head coach material. What happened to this program being world class; now it just seems World Star.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 9:03 am to
I actually agree. If he wants to stay as DC great

If not...we have to clean house to install a new culture. More internal inertia isn't needed
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96252 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 9:03 am to
Because Aranda will see the folly of meddling on that side of the ball, will take the best OC available and let him do his thing.

At least that's the theory - it's certainly better than the theory that got us to fire Miles to hire O.

Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
79965 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 9:04 am to
Agree

That’s why I was ready for a totally new regime after Les. If the new coach wanted to keep Aranda or any staff member, fine, but shouldn’t be mandated.

Nobody, including Aranda, isn’t replaceable.
Posted by YoungManOldMan
Member since Dec 2017
1882 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 9:05 am to
quote:

f not...we have to clean house to install a new culture. More internal inertia isn't needed



Part of the question I have about this Coach in Waiting malarkey I keep seeing posted. The next AD is going to want to pick his own crew. I do not expect Aleva to get another bite at the apple.
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
11069 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 9:05 am to
Aranda's contract makes it likely that he will either be offered the HC job or whoever would be next HC would have to agree to keep him.

I don't see an O buyout and a 5-7.5 million buyout for Aranda too.

Not happening.
Posted by YoungManOldMan
Member since Dec 2017
1882 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 9:05 am to
quote:

Because Aranda will see the folly of meddling on that side of the ball, will take the best OC available and let him do his thing.



Just like O did
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 9:05 am to
For a few reasons:

1. Aranda would always have the defensive side of the ball solid.
2. He’s known for his incredible work ethic and attention to detail. Those are two hallmarks of successful head coaches.
3. Players love playing for him and coaches love working with him. These two things, combined with previous two, are great indicators of future success.
4. He’s clearly intelligent enough to adapt to his environment. He can think outside the box to hire outside the program.

In summation – Intelligence, work ethic, adaptability, attention to detail, respect from peers, and youth.

And he's not from Louisiana. He's not "one of us", which goddamnit, appears to be what we need.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42510 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 9:06 am to
Aranda should be HC now
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96252 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 9:06 am to
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Just like O did


No - because it is easier to see/adjust to others' mistakes than one's own - that's a fact.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 9:06 am to
quote:

Because Aranda will see the folly of meddling on that side of the ball, will take the best OC available and let him do his thing.


Just like O did



Aranda can run mental laps around Orgeron.

They aren't in the same stratosphere of coaching and intelligence. Period.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31991 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 9:08 am to
quote:

Just like O did

Its not fair to equate the two
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
16433 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 9:50 am to
Aranda has all the characteristics of a star in the making. All the “he only wants to be a DC” talk is nothing more than a rant tale. He said some things and the rant has turned that into indisputable inevitable fact. If he wants the gig, id like to be the school that finds out if he’s the real deal cause if he leaves, he’s never coming back. It’s not like he’s some entrenched, O minion that’s part of the good ole boy club. It’s like he’s the black sheep of this coaching staff
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 9:52 am
Posted by GeauxBayouBengals
Member since Nov 2003
6256 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:00 am to
Promoting Aranda means LSU sticks with Alleva. A new AD is not going to come in and let the former AD dictate who the football coach will be. No way, Alleva has to go and if that means Aranda has to go too, so be it. Clean house.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29862 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:04 am to
Aranda is a 'legit' 3rd option, if you go after a few big time coaches and get shot down.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72455 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:05 am to
Because Aranda is by far the closest thing you’re going to get to a world class coach

I’d bet just about anything I own that Aranda would bring in a modern o coordinator and give them autonomy.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 10:07 am
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:09 am to
quote:

For a few reasons:

1. Aranda would always have the defensive side of the ball solid.
2. He’s known for his incredible work ethic and attention to detail. Those are two hallmarks of successful head coaches.
3. Players love playing for him and coaches love working with him. These two things, combined with previous two, are great indicators of future success.
4. He’s clearly intelligent enough to adapt to his environment. He can think outside the box to hire outside the program.

In summation – Intelligence, work ethic, adaptability, attention to detail, respect from peers, and youth.

And he's not from Louisiana. He's not "one of us", which goddamnit, appears to be what we need.




Bravo dude.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16776 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:13 am to
I promote Aranda to HC/DC.

Raymond becomes Co-DC/DB coach. If he doesn't get promoted and a raise I think he will eventually get poached. He can continue to learn under Aranda.

Meatball remains as DL coach.

Hire a LB coach.

Aranda is smart enough to find a good OC and not get caught up in good ole boy cronyism.
Posted by Blktiger
Spartanburg, South Carolina
Member since May 2015
1169 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:59 am to
Bayou Cowboy, I said the something keep the defensive staff hire a lb or safety coach who can recruit.

And use the other 6 spots on the offensive side of the ball
Posted by TigerFan4040
Member since Sep 2013
4392 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 11:19 am to
I said this the other day and got downvoted to shite. LSU Fans wont accept another internal hire if this ship sinks. It will get really ugly.

Would be really hard to explain that in the world of college football.

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