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re: Report: Florida officials meeting w/ Chip Kelly NOW

Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:29 pm to
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:29 pm to
or you mean UCLA
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:30 pm to
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And Chip will say "That's nice. I'll wait and see what UCLA has to offer"



They're paying:

12 Million to their ex-HC alone.

This isn't counting his assistants and all the rest which Kelly has already expressed he kind of wants to ''clean house'' and have his way with a program.

So we're talking about 15 - 17 million.

Plus, they're going to have to pay more than us, and we're probably going to pay something like 5 a year. So on top of that, they're going to have to pay 5 more. (Chip Kelly will not receive the same amount that McElwain did, that I can assure you guys).

So we're talking about at least 23, maybe 25 for UCLA to be paying in year 1.

THEN, on TOP OF THAT, we're talking about bringing in his assistants, and of course the fact that UCLA's football facilities are way worse than our own. We're already upgrading ours, and have been for the past two years.

So now we're talking probably around 30??

So on first objection:

They don't have those kinds of simoleons, period. NO school can pay like that outside of a place like UF where we get money from multiple sports and have multiple championship teams or near-championship teams yearly in different sports.

On second objection:

Kelly wants to win football, and I can guarantee you that he has absolutely no desire of rebuilding a program like UCLA that has never been all that good in football.

Why in the frick would Chip Kelly, who clearly wants to just coach and not construct, go to UCLA where they're riding back to back losing seasons and haven't won their division since 2012, let alone the PAC since 1998?

The third objection:

He has publicly stated that recruiting is not something he likes to spend time on -- so here's the situation at UCLA:

They have worse facilities than Florida, they have an immediate rival inside the city with more currency, prestige and support for their football team (and a cooler mascot, this is mostly for laughs) and really, he will almost always be competing and losing with USC unless he can beat them three times in a row, and only until then will he probably monopolize the recruiting base there, and maybe even then he will not.

To sum up:

UCLA has to pay a lot more money than Florida does.
UCLA has a weaker recruiting base than we do.
UCLA has an immediate rival in their city who is better.
UCLA has less support for their football program by a lot.
UCLA has worse facilities than Florida.
UCLA has never had a winning culture in football.
UCLA has had back to back potentially non-bowling years.
UCLA hasn't been in a big bowl since 1998.

He's not going to UCLA, and UCLA can't even pay him to begin with.
This post was edited on 11/19/17 at 5:32 pm
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
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Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:32 pm to
Florida fans are gonna melt so hard
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:32 pm to
Narrator: He's going to UCLA

If we're honest, it's because Chip is on the spectrum and can't handle the SEC. But it's more fun to act like it's because UF sucks.
Posted by GaryGator
The Swamp
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:32 pm to
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Strickland is demanding assistants be kept on staff?!? Florida is fricked



I think it was just for Frost, but yes, it's stupid.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:33 pm to
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UCLA has a weaker recruiting base than we do.

oh yea. theres no talent in southern california
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:37 pm to
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If he's putting it out there, then he truly believes it.



Well if someone believes it then it must be true!
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:37 pm to
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oh yea. theres no talent in southern california


There's no shortage of talent in Southern California, but UCLA literally has USC a stone's throw away. UCLA has beaten USC 4 times in 18 years and the last time they won the PAC was 1998, the last time they won their division was in 2012.

It's not a huge football program, and is dwarfed by its in-city brother. It's not a place for immediate success, nor does it have the fan support to lure Chip Kelly.

No money, fewer recruits, bigger brother in the same city. It's like Oregon all over again, fighting over scraps.
Posted by Johnny B Goode
Fort Campbell, KY
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:40 pm to
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Florida fans are gonna melt so hard



Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:40 pm to
And you are confident that Kelly isn’t just playing Florida to get a bit more from UCLA?
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:41 pm to
User StrawsDrawnAtRandom is taking this UCLA stuff worse than I will when Gruden turns VOLS down
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145172 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:41 pm to
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fewer recruits
just because UCLA gets out recruited by USC isnt an indictment on UCLAs ability to bring in the type of recruits needed to win in the pac. UCLA literally got the #1 overall player last year and routinely brings in top 15 classes. hell, mora even had some top 10 classes. there are a lot of reasons why florida is a better job, but the lack of ability of the UCLA program to recruit big time players is not one of them
This post was edited on 11/19/17 at 5:42 pm
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:44 pm to
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Why in the frick would Chip Kelly, who clearly wants to just coach and not construct



1. What is floridas record this year? You really think there is no “construction” to be done? Especially to get the players for his system into the program?

2. Wanting to just coach and not construct is a bad formula for a college coach, especially in the SEC. with graduation and kids leaving early for the NFL, a college coach is always “constructing”.
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13969 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:45 pm to
The son of the head of the UAA search committee just tweeted that Chip has been hired.
This post was edited on 11/19/17 at 5:46 pm
Posted by memphis tiger
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:45 pm to
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Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:48 pm to
Nice, UCLA also had two back to back losing seasons and has only beaten USC 4 times out of the last 19 games, hasn't won its conference since 1998 and hasn't won its division since 2012, and twice since 2000. They've won their division twice since 2000.

We won our division twice since 2015. Florida is a much easier job to run than UCLA and has way more of a chance of reaching the CFB Playoff than UCLA. Outside of recruiting you couldn't argue a single point in UCLA's favor, and even in recruiting it's dubious since Florida has a top ten recruiting class with no fricking head coach while UCLA is sitting at 20 and will have a bit of fall off from losing their HC.

You guys are terrified.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
16634 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:48 pm to
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UCLA has an immediate rival in their city who is better.


Maybe, but UF is third in their state.
Posted by Mr. Elvert
Dallas
Member since Oct 2012
14993 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:49 pm to
Link?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145172 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:49 pm to
i literally said there are a bunch of reasons why florida is a better job than UCLA. i mean i literally said it
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
16634 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:49 pm to
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You guys are terrified.


What bowl is florida going to?
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