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re: Ponamsky says no hire possibly until 1/23

Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:26 pm to
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:26 pm to
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So you think we have somebody locked up, but are having to wait?


I hope, for Les' sake, that he has someone from the NFL ready to go. That's the only thing I can think of. If Brick is hired at the end of all of this, then I will be right there with you. Maybe not as vocal as you, but I will be upset.
Posted by JRT25
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:30 pm to
Completely resetting is the simpler explanation.

It's a little weird this leaks on the Sunday night of the playoffs and prior to the NC. Not sure what that means if anything.
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:30 pm to
interdasting. i would think bebe would be a candidate for that atm dl job. but i have heard from ut fans that chavis will not work with him.
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:31 pm to
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I hope, for Les' sake, that he has someone from the NFL ready to go. That's the only thing I can think of. If Brick is hired at the end of all of this, then I will be right there with you. Maybe not as vocal as you, but I will be upset.



I don't think Brick is a possibility. Even in the worst case scenario where LSU is starting its search over, this would have been because the powers above Les made it known that an internal hire wouldn't be acceptable. Otherwise, Brick would have already been announced.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:32 pm to
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I don't think Brick is a possibility. Even in the worst case scenario where LSU is starting its search over, this would have been because the powers above Les made it known that an internal hire wouldn't be acceptable. Otherwise, Brick would have already been announced.


Exactly, just saying...
Posted by mytigger
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:35 pm to
Here's the rub...

1. If it's Zook, just announce it and move on. Zook would make sense.... knows the area (south), defensive minded guy, great recruiter (important in this hire for Les), would be a promotion (ST to DC) and probably a huge raise. Having him announce now isn't going to hurt the Packers in the least, or affect their play. Since this isn't announced I don't think Zook is the guy.

2. No NFL DC that is still in the playoffs is coming to LSU in the same capacity. Put down the pipe, or just pass it to me.

3. It could be an NFL coach recently fired, or in a lesser capacity with a non-playoff team but if that is the case then you could announce it now if it was a done deal. Safe to assume this is not the scenario or if it is, that it's not a done deal as of today.

4. No collegiate DC aside from OSU or UO is still playing. It could be one of those, but none of their guys makes a lot of sense to come to LSU. So that's not a likely scenario.

5. It could be a collegiate coach whose season is finished, but again if it is then it's not a done deal as of today or it would be announced.

In looking at all the possible scenarios I think it's safe to assume that LSU does not have a deal with anyone at this time.
This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 8:38 pm
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:41 pm to
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1. If it's Zook, just announce it and move on. Zook would make sense.... knows the area (south), defensive minded guy, great recruiter (important in this hire for Les), would be a promotion (ST to DC) and probably a huge raise. Having him announce now isn't going to hurt the Packers in the least, or affect their play. Since this isn't announced I don't think Zook is the guy.


I honestly think Miles would never do that, as it's poor form. And that's one reason why I think Miles was so pissed about Chavis and Sumlin. Miles would never want the perception that he had something to do with a coach not devoting everything to preparing his team - especially in the playoffs.

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2. No NFL DC that is still in the playoffs is coming to LSU in the same capacity. Put down the pipe, or just pass it to me.


I don't think anyone really thinks this, though it would be great.

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3. It could be an NFL coach recently fired, or in a lesser capacity with a non-playoff team but if that is the case then you could announce it now if it was a done deal. Safe to assume this is not the scenario or if it is, that it's not a done deal as of today.

4. No collegiate DC aside from OSU or UO is still playing. It could be one of those, but none of their guys makes a lot of sense to come to LSU. So that's not a likely scenario.

5. It could be a collegiate coach whose season is finished, but again if it is then it's not a done deal as of today or it would be announced.

In looking at all the possible scenarios I think it's safe to assume that LSU does not have a deal with anyone at this time.


Not true. It could be Zook, or someone like Zook, and see my reasoning why.

Posted by 1999
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:42 pm to
i think les has interviewed a shite load of guys but for whatever reason hasn't pulled the trigger on any of them. i think he is either hitting the reset button and starting over from scratch or circling back around to some guys he talked to earlier.

this is probably his most important hire to date. he messes this one up and he will be gone in 1-2 years. i can understand why he is taking his time and willing to even lose some recruits.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:45 pm to
I don't think Brick is the first choice. Else, he would have already been named. But if he's 6th, 7th, etc and the 6 or 7 above him all eventually decline, then Brick could still be promoted to DC.

I think Les is giving due-diligence to this search. He wants the best hire he can get. And until everyone deemed superior to Brick has said 'no,' Brick won't be named.

I had hoped that if it was an NFL guy, then we would start hearing some leaks during the NFL playoffs as a way to leverage some PR. That didn't happen. Doesn't conclude it isn't an NFL guy of course.
Posted by mytigger
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:46 pm to
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I honestly think Miles would never do that, as it's poor form.


Dude... He did it with Pelini prior to LSU playing in the NC game.
Posted by mytigger
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:47 pm to
Brick's not going to be the DC. Les is just throwing his name out there so he'll get a job elsewhere and move on.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:50 pm to
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Dude... He did it with Pelini prior to LSU playing in the NC game.


What?
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:50 pm to
marcus spears isn't doing les any favors by beating that drum.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:50 pm to
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1. If it's Zook, just announce it and move on. Zook would make sense.... knows the area (south), defensive minded guy, great recruiter (important in this hire for Les), would be a promotion (ST to DC) and probably a huge raise. Having him announce now isn't going to hurt the Packers in the least, or affect their play. Since this isn't announced I don't think Zook is the guy.



Agree...but I wouldn't rule it out. Miles is one of those "team first" guys. Hell, he even let Chavis coach out the bowl game. If Zook expressed any concern about keeping this quiet, I think Miles very easily would keep it quiet.

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2. No NFL DC that is still in the playoffs is coming to LSU in the same capacity. Put down the pipe, or just pass it to me.



Agree...and I would even add any DC that is still employed in the NFL.

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3. It could be an NFL coach recently fired, or in a lesser capacity with a non-playoff team but if that is the case then you could announce it now if it was a done deal. Safe to assume this is not the scenario or if it is, that it's not a done deal as of today.



Agree 100%. And, IMO, this is the most likely scenario.

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4. No collegiate DC aside from OSU or UO is still playing. It could be one of those, but none of their guys makes a lot of sense to come to LSU. So that's not a likely scenario.



Agree. Doesn't make sense.

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5. It could be a collegiate coach whose season is finished, but again if it is then it's not a done deal as of today or it would be announced.



Agree. Everyone has moved on from this scenario, but I'd think it is still a real possibility...especially if LSU is in the earlier stages of the hire than people expect.

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In looking at all the possible scenarios I think it's safe to assume that LSU does not have a deal with anyone at this time.



99.9% agree.
Posted by jdutch75
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 9:04 pm to
Maybe it is an NFL guy that wants to keep it quiet because they stand to get a bonus for the teams performance and might miss out if they leave now.

I have no idea. Just hoping for the best.
Posted by Camp Randall
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 9:04 pm to
Some of you negative losers should just get it over with and either eat a bullet or become ole miss fans. Jesus so many hysterical 12 year old girls.
Posted by mytigger
Member since Jan 2008
15291 posts
Posted on 1/11/15 at 9:05 pm to
Les announced Pelini was leaving for Nebraska a month before the NC game in 2007 - which he let him coach.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 9:06 pm to
There are a couple of other not insignificant factors that could be in play:
1) Les is thinking about retirement which could bring a HCIW into view.
2) Les is not merely replacing a single position. That is, there are multiple personnel moves happening.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 9:06 pm to
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Les announced Pelini was leaving for Nebraska a month before the NC game in 2007 - which he let him coach.


Because Bo was leaving. I mean, what was he supposed to do? Bo probably went about it the right way, as well. Chavis, obviously, did not.

I'm talking about giving the impression that he's taking something away from another team.
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 9:12 pm to
Bo left for a head coaching job which is not the same as making a lateral move. And if you honestly don't believe a NFL DC caliber coach would take a higher paying gig with less trouble and open recruiting then maybe you should pass us the pipe. There is a possibility that it happens
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