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re: Offer Jim Leonhard Aranda type $$

Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:43 pm to
Posted by Mr LSU2001
lafayette
Member since Aug 2009
465 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

We switched for Pelini, we can switch back. We absolutely have the personnel to do it.


We switched for the head coach! O has been very vocal he prefers a 4 man front. Had nothing to do with Pelini. The Head coach decided this once Aranda left
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47348 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:43 pm to
So your thinking is; even if Leonhard was willing to come, we shouldn’t accept because muh 4-3 and some title ix shite that hasn’t happened yet?

You think people like Saban think this way? Thank God you don’t run the program.
Posted by Mr LSU2001
lafayette
Member since Aug 2009
465 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:48 pm to
No people like Saban who is a master at coaching defense! And nobody compares to him
He is the greatest college coach of all time
This post was edited on 12/23/20 at 6:49 pm
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116066 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:48 pm to
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So your thinking is; even if Leonhard was willing to come, we shouldn’t accept because muh 4-3 and some title ix shite that hasn’t happened yet?


I’m saying the combination of all those factors make it less than a pipe dream. It’s not happening.

quote:

You think people like Saban think this way?


Saban would never put his program in this situation in the first place

quote:

Thank God you don’t run the program.


Again, I’m not saying Jim Leonard isn’t a great coach, or that I wouldn’t love having him here. I pounded the table for us to go after him last year and made the same argument as you are trying to make now because it made sense

The situation is drastically different from last offseason. It’s not a realistic option due to all the reasons I have listed. It’s a waste of your energy.

I’m not saying don’t get Leonard, I’m just telling you the reality of the situation.
This post was edited on 12/23/20 at 6:49 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47348 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:50 pm to
Saban has run both alignments in his career. As has Mason for that matter.

You should stop trying to “win” this argument. You get the best guy who is willing to come. /thread.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116066 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

You get the best guy who is willing to come


What does that have to do with Jim Leonhard
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47348 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:57 pm to
If EO and SW think he’s the best DC in the country, they make an offer. This isn’t hard.

All of your other excuses are just that.
Posted by Mr LSU2001
lafayette
Member since Aug 2009
465 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

Saban has run both alignments in his career. As has Mason for that matter.

You should stop trying to “win” this argument. You get the best guy who is willing to come. /thread.


There’s no argument I don’t care it’s what O has said Not me! In 2018 He recruited a player were I coach and I heard him tell our head coach and defense coordinator this exact thing! He wants a 4-3 style defense and when Da was ready to move on he was switching!
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47348 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:58 pm to
Oh. Ok.

Posted by Dennis4LSU
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2008
4483 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 6:59 pm to
Oh look another Jim Leonhard thread
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116066 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

If EO and SW think he’s the best DC in the country, they make an offer. This isn’t hard.


Well in that case let’s offer Saban. Best DC in the country. I don’t want to hear any excuses
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47348 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:08 pm to
Stop being cute.

The idea that the defending national champions shouldn’t bother to offer elite coaching candidates because you think they won’t leave or they run a certain alignment is fricking stupid and beta and nothing you can type changes that.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116066 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:11 pm to
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The idea that the defending national champions shouldn’t bother to offer elite coaching candidates because you think they won’t leave or they run a certain alignment is fricking stupid and beta and nothing you can type changes that


Do you think I’m making the decisions?

Or that I agree with them?

I’m telling you what the reality is. I’m not telling you what I would do or would want us to do. I have no idea why you can’t grasp that concept. It has nothing to do with me:
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
91532 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

Great DC's aren't locked in. They change alignnments 3-4, 4-3, 5-3. Zone, nickel, Dime packages.



This ain’t Madden dude
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47348 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

Do you think I’m making the decisions?
no. Thank goodness.

quote:

I’m telling you what the reality is
except you don’t know what reality is. We are just randos posting on a message board. I stated this in my very first post. You’ve learned nothing.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47348 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:17 pm to
Mason does this. Saban does this.

This isn’t 1997.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116066 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:19 pm to
quote:

except you don’t know what reality is.


You don’t have to be an insider to have common sense and understand how these things work and what our situation is.

Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
90585 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

Oh look another Jim Leonhard thread




exactly why i responded the way i did.

it is basically the equivalent of saying oh hey let's go get bill cowher or rex ryan

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47348 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:32 pm to
You aren’t growing as a poster. You are wasting my time and yours.

In summary:
If you ran a program, you’d be too much of a pussy to even call an agent and check the temperature because of something as retarded as a base alignment. If I ran a championship program, I’d list the top coordinators on the planet and call their agents. I’d offer them what they are worth down my list until one says yes.

It’s simple.

ETA. And I don’t care about Leonhard per se. I’m speaking philosophically
This post was edited on 12/23/20 at 7:35 pm
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
6101 posts
Posted on 12/23/20 at 7:35 pm to
I said offer the man 3-3.5 mil per season. Then get his answer. If its no, then move on. But what if he says yes. Wont know until you ask? No harm asking?
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