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re: Odds of Les Miles to Notre Dame, Texas, Southern Cal, or Penn State?
Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:04 pm to AbuTheMonkey
Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:04 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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Notre Dame is not firing a coach just to hire another one that the previously fired coach beat in a bowl game.
Why not? Worked out pretty well when LSU fired Dinardo and hired Saban.
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:06 pm to DrEdgeLSU
Yeah, Les will absolutely get interviews. I agree with things getting stale at LSU. Doesn't mean he's suck somewhere else.
Also, I agree with the Auburn poster and everything he said.
Also, I agree with the Auburn poster and everything he said.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:08 pm to Spaulding Smails
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Look where Stanford is at now
So Stanford has one bad season, and all of a sudden they are a terrible program?
Fact of the matter is that their pro-style offense based on running the ball and shorter passes has worked in that league. If you can control the line of scrimmage, run the football, and play good to great defense, you are going to win football games. Even in the Pac 12.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:11 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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Notre Dame is not firing a coach just to hire another one that the previously fired coach beat in a bowl game.
Yeah!!! What kind of shite-arse school would do that sort of thing?
Signed,
LSU, upon the hiring of Nick Saban from Michigan St, loser to the previous LSU coach Gerry Dinardo, fired in November 1999.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:12 pm to DamnStrong1860
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Notre Dame is not firing a coach just to hire another one that the previously fired coach beat in a bowl game.
Why not? Worked out pretty well when LSU fired Dinardo and hired Saban.
Because if Les Miles, with one of the best recruiting bases in the country, lower academic restrictions than at ND, a resource-rich program and large fanbase, at a top ten all-time program cannot beat Brian Kelly, then we are not hiring him. The dynamic is different between MSU - a program that plays second fiddle in its own state and about eighth fiddle in its own region - and LSU than between ND and LSU. Because he will be 63 years old next year. Because his record over the last four years is barely distinguishable from Kelly's.
In the event Kelly is fired, Les Miles will be nowhere near the job. Seriously, where do you guys get this shite?
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:16 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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Because if Les Miles, with one of the best recruiting bases in the country, lower academic restrictions than at ND, a resource-rich program and large fanbase, at a top ten all-time program cannot beat Brian Kelly, then we are not hiring him.
This is some pretty idiotic logic. It's a one-game sample size in a relatively meaningless bowl game. Who cares?
Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:19 pm to BayouBengals03
Even though the talk was "LSU is crazy - they just fired their winningest coach ever!", watch how many offers he gets.
ZERO
ZERO
Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:22 pm to BayouBengals03
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This is some pretty idiotic logic. It's a one-game sample size in a relatively meaningless bowl game. Who cares?
It's pretty idiotic to suggest Miles is going to get interviewed by four of the premier programs in the country when he just got fired from another premier program that, on paper, is one of the easiest places to win in the country.
It's particularly stupid to suggest such a thing to a program that saw, first-hand, exactly why Miles was fired in the first place. You handed the ball to Fournette all of 11 times when he had 243 total yards in that game. Jennings was terrible. His issues were plain as day. The guys isn't going to get a sniff from a major program.
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:22 pm to BayouBengals03
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This is some pretty idiotic logic. It's a one-game sample size in a relatively meaningless bowl game. Who cares?
Right. Rex Ryan beat Bill Belichick 4 times. By his logic, the Jets would never hire Belichick.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:24 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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It's pretty idiotic to suggest Miles is going to get interviewed by four of the premier programs in the country when he just got fired from another premier program
A program where he was very successful for the most part of 11 seasons.
Again, to say Miles won't get looks from major programs is laughable.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:25 pm to SCwTiger
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ZERO
Oh, so now zero offers period?
Good stuff.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:32 pm to BayouBengals03
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A program where he was very successful for the most part of 11 seasons.
Again, to say Miles won't get looks from major programs is laughable.
He will not. Not from the 15 or so powerhouse programs. Not at 63 years old. Not when the national perception is that he largely sustained what Nick Saban built. Not when the downward trend was so clear. Not when his last four years were a nothingburger of mediocrity at a program that has every possible advantage going for it.
Did Mack Brown get any interviews after Texas?
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:34 pm to Dorsey07
Stupidity like this is how Hillary gets votes...
Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:39 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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You handed the ball to Fournette all of 11 times when he had 243 total yards in that game.
In fairness, when 2 touches account for 189 of those yards, the remaining 9 touches for 54 yards don't look nearly as impressive.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:54 pm to Choupique19
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Will he? How well did he recruit at Oklahoma St?
Uh really well compared to what they were used to bringing in. OSU went from classes in the 80's&90's to top 25 classes. You do realize that you can look this shite up right?
Miles was more successful at OSU tha saban was at Michigan State. Miles was more successful than his predecessor at every stop.
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 10/19/16 at 3:56 pm to DrEdgeLSU
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In fairness, when 2 touches account for 189 of those yards, the remaining 9 touches for 54 yards don't look nearly as impressive.
To a point, sure, but I'd file that in the "If my aunt had balls..." category. That kind of explosiveness is part of what makes players like that so special. ND fans were absolutely baffled at Miles after that game. We were abysmal and broken on defense that year, too - a mediocre USC team had just ripped right through our D a month before and Sarkisian called off the dogs in the second half.
I read this board as an outsider and just shake my head at some of this stuff. As far as tangibles go, LSU has to be one of the best places in the country to coach: your recruiting base is virtually unparalleled and you're the only P5 program in the state. You have a ton of money and great facilities and get 100,000 to every game. You have a great history and you're in a great conference. You don't have any exceptional academic hurdles that a place like ND has. LSU should be shooting for the stars, and I guess some can't see that if a guy like Les is having problems at LSU, then he sure as shite is going to be having problems at ND or Penn State or even Texas.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 4:00 pm to BayouBengals03
I'd love to see Les at Notre Dame, because everyone at ESPN would be so excited they'd have heart attacks and die.
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 10/19/16 at 4:25 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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To a point, sure, but I'd file that in the "If my aunt had balls..." category. That kind of explosiveness is part of what makes players like that so special. ND fans were absolutely baffled at Miles after that game. We were abysmal and broken on defense that year, too - a mediocre USC team had just ripped right through our D a month before and Sarkisian called off the dogs in the second half.
I hear you. But the stats of the game tell a different story.
LSU had 436 yds of offense on 52 plays. Two of those plays accounted for 164 yds. We had the ball for only 23 minutes in the game, primarily due to three TD's of 75+ yards.
The story of the game was our defense. It was horrible. We allowed 263 yards rushing and 11 of 17 on 3rd down. Any way you look at it, LSU did enough offensively to win if our defense plays 10% better than it did. So y'all can look at Les Miles all you want, but he's not why we lost the bowl game.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 4:34 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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LSU should be shooting for the stars, and I guess some can't see that if a guy like Les is having problems at LSU, then he sure as shite is going to be having problems at ND or Penn State or even Texas.
As an outsider, I can see how you would get to this conclusion. I guess I'd say this -- would you have bet any money on the side of a guy like Les Miles...28-24 at Oklahoma State...winning 114 games at LSU over 11+ seasons? While all of those things were still true, and coming off of a season in which at one point LSU was ranked #1 (or #2, can't remember) in the CFP poll and should have had 10 wins if not for a lightning-caused cancellation, LSU is still shooting for the stars. It just gets old after a while -- there are plenty of schools who would have KILLED for the consistency displayed by LSU over the past 15 years.
Look at it this way -- in the SEC alone -- since 2000, I think that LSU and Georgia are the only schools with 2 or fewer head coaches. Over the past 5-6 years (can't remember what I looked at last year), only LSU, Ga, and Bama have had a .500 or better record in conference every year. It just gets to the point where the lowest paid coach in your own division makes $4+ MM, meaning someone making $4MM a year is finishing dead last, so 5-3 and 6-2 don't cut it anymore. You have to be at 7-1 or better in the SEC West.
Les is a good football coach. He'll do well somewhere else...like a Kentucky or a Purdue...because he'll go back to having nothing to lose like when he was in Stillwater or in his early years at LSU. He got paid...he got complacent...and he started to lose the games he shouldn't have. It happens all the time.
Honestly, I think his age more than anything will deter schools.
Posted on 10/19/16 at 4:34 pm to AbuTheMonkey
Again, Les was at LSU for 11 seasons, and had problems for the last two or three, basically. It's the same old story... Stay at a place for 10-12 years, and you're likely going to wear out your welcome.
Overall, Les didn't have problems at LSU. He was incredibly successful.
Overall, Les didn't have problems at LSU. He was incredibly successful.
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 4:40 pm
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