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re: No real surprise but players hated duel DC's

Posted on 12/28/08 at 6:12 pm to
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 12/28/08 at 6:12 pm to
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Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 12/28/08 at 6:25 pm to
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again, I don't think you get a mulligan on a screw up of that level.


That's funny.

So, the bad DC hire outweighs the National Championship in your mind?

LOL.
Posted by specs1
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 12/28/08 at 6:30 pm to
Yes, this trouble between the DC's and the players as well as the lack of respect by the players played out at the airport and on the trip to Ark.

Have heard a lot about that.
Posted by Stevo
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/28/08 at 6:38 pm to
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Yes, this trouble between the DC's and the players as well as the lack of respect by the players played out at the airport and on the trip to Ark.


what happened?
Posted by CRAZY 4 LSU
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 12/28/08 at 6:38 pm to
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Yes, this trouble between the DC's and the players as well as the lack of respect by the players played out at the airport and on the trip to Ark.

Have heard a lot about that.


What did happen there?
Posted by SS4LSU
Member since Sep 2007
370 posts
Posted on 12/28/08 at 6:52 pm to
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Not on a coordinator, and especially not on a coordinator that's not going to be a figure head, ala Saban's DC or Meyer's OC.


What about Saban's hire of Major Applewhite? Was that a screw up that was unforgiveable? Just curious since you decided to bring up the "Great One".

Oh how I wish I could be the boss of some of these perfect people on this board.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 12/28/08 at 6:58 pm to
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What about Saban's hire of Major Applewhite?
I'd like to see an answer to this. Dude left Alabama as the OC after a 7-6 season and a loss to ULM to be a position coach. Mulligans anyone?
This post was edited on 12/28/08 at 7:07 pm
Posted by EasyE
Metairie
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/28/08 at 7:16 pm to
the vast majority of miles' decisions have worked, whether you agree or not. did you expect him to change dc's mid-season?? ask tommy tubs how that worked out.

these are major decisions that take time. that is why they are done way in advance of the public ever knowing about them
Posted by Genghis Khan
Mongolia
Member since Nov 2008
1689 posts
Posted on 12/28/08 at 7:28 pm to
Miles is a very confusing study. On one hand the dismissal of RP was one of the classiest, bravest things he has done, post Katrina.

On the other hand, publicly pinning the poor performance of the team on players - offense or defense during the season vs. stepping up and taking the live rounds did not take much courage or class.

I hope that the new coaches can instill unity, discipline, and passion in addition to being good coaches.
Posted by supaman
ridgeland, ms
Member since Jul 2007
232 posts
Posted on 12/28/08 at 7:29 pm to
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damn guys, he made a mistake and thought hiring from within would be good for coaching morale, instead of always going out and finding a coach. I can understand that. He is fixing it. With as well as he has done at lsu he is entitled to one mistake imo.


agreed. his strength so far has been that he has chosen great assistants. ala pelini and crowton. obviously he made a mistake and he knows it. he will fix this. i think this is a strength of miles over saban. miles is not afraid to hire strong competent assistants while someone like saban wants puppets as assistants.
Posted by supaman
ridgeland, ms
Member since Jul 2007
232 posts
Posted on 12/28/08 at 7:32 pm to
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Yes, this trouble between the DC's and the players as well as the lack of respect by the players played out at the airport and on the trip to Ark.

Have heard a lot about that.


yes i have heard that also but no details. please elaborate.
Posted by EasyE
Metairie
Member since Mar 2006
350 posts
Posted on 12/28/08 at 7:35 pm to
if nothing else, the lack of information shows that miles has control of the situation. you have to like that
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 12/28/08 at 8:04 pm to
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a man that has earned it because of one mistake


One mistake? After watching those guys coach for three years, when it was obvious to everyone including Rantards, you're the exception, that Peveto couldn't coach special teams, yet he made him a DC.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
32732 posts
Posted on 12/28/08 at 8:38 pm to
skinny on the Arkansas plane situation:

Apparently there was a ton of turbulence to the point that some thought the plane was coming down. The players and coaches were freakin' out and very shook up about it.

Separately, a rumor started that the players and coaches got in a fight on the plane because someone heard raised voices on the plane (either via phone call, or via someone who was on the plane that wanted to start a rumor).
Posted by Colonel Hapablap
Mostly Harmless
Member since Nov 2003
28791 posts
Posted on 12/28/08 at 8:52 pm to
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so Les should be fired??

no, but he should have a short leash, and he deserves every bit of ridicule that he gets for that hire. And he no longer gets the benefit of the doubt that so many people around here seem to want to extend to him. "Trust Miles to do the right thing" doesn't fly any more.
Posted by Colonel Hapablap
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/28/08 at 8:54 pm to
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What about Saban's hire of Major Applewhite? Was that a screw up that was unforgiveable? Just curious since you decided to bring up the "Great One".

same thing applies. Applewhite was a terrible hire. I'm not sure that anyone knows WTF he thought he was doing there.

Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23334 posts
Posted on 12/28/08 at 9:17 pm to
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same thing applies.
so Saban should now be on a short leash at Bama and he no longer gets the benefit of the doubt?
Posted by thechad129
Member since Oct 2008
172 posts
Posted on 12/28/08 at 9:21 pm to
yes...the two DC's had them out of position which lead to poor tackling. However, it is good to know what the players thought about the whole idea.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62101 posts
Posted on 12/28/08 at 9:36 pm to
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so Saban should now be on a short leash at Bama and he no longer gets the benefit of the doubt?


That guy is clueless.

I don't think many people here realize how much of an accomplishment it is to win a NC.

Miles had faith in Mallory. It was a huge mistake. But in one year (less than 1 if you believe the rumors) he's making changes.

There is a huge difference between saying he deserves criticism for last year's hire and saying he should be on a short leash.

One is reasonable...the other is retarded.
This post was edited on 12/28/08 at 9:37 pm
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23334 posts
Posted on 12/28/08 at 9:42 pm to
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That guy is clueless.

I don't think many people here realize how much of an accomplishment it is to win a NC.

Miles had faith in Mallory. It was a huge mistake. But in one year (less than 1 if you believe the rumors) he's making changes.

There is a huge difference between saying he deserves criticism for last year's hire and saying he should be on a short leash.

One is reasonable...the other is retarded.

I think he's realized his mistake and decided WYHI threads on the OT are more his speed.
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