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My Coaching Search Advice

Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:20 pm
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21535 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:20 pm
1) Don't get caught-up in isolated head-to-head games. Rather, look at results across entire seasons and longer. Pay special attention to what coaches do after a loss. Every team has a low point or lays an egg in a season. It happens.

2) No coach who's coached for any time will come without some skeletons in their closet. The best have them.

3) The SEC is not for the faint of heart. Many "successful" coaches in other contexts have only to get their team "up" for 2 or 3 big games a year.

4) Good coaches learn and mature. Just because they had a bad season somewhere in their past is not a disqualifier.

5) The name of the game is championships (courtesy of Bill Arnsparger). If a candidate doesn't get that I'll pass.
Posted by NAsh-vegas Tigah
Franklin, TN
Member since Jan 2004
2478 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:21 pm to
Spot on advice. Interesting to watch this playout!!
Posted by I-H8-BAMA
Benton, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2013
10427 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:22 pm to
Let's pay extra on our taxes to pay Saban 20 mill a year :)
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:23 pm to
quote:

My Coaching Search Advice

Here's mine:

1) Use the same search criteria that LSU used to hire Saban / Miles.

2) Repeat #1 as many times as necessary.
Posted by larry289
Holiday Island, AR
Member since Nov 2009
3858 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:44 pm to
Excellent summary. Here are my point values for each:
#1 - 15
#2 - 15
#3 - 25
#4 - 15
#5 - 30

No. 3 is the most difficult for me. Take a coach like Herman whose teams are throwing the ball in a run-gun offense. I have a want for him, but would that mix work year after year in the SEC? What would you do with tailbacks that we recruit so well, give them 10-12 carries a game?

My guess would be a coach such as Herman would be able to strike the right balance, but this is going to be the challenge of this first in a long time hire.

I concentrate on him in violation of point #1 because he is my favorite.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108745 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:45 pm to
My advice: make Herman an offer he literally cannot refuse. Do no allow him to say no.
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6868 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

1) Don't get caught-up in isolated head-to-head games. Rather, look at results across entire seasons and longer. Pay special attention to what coaches do after a loss. Every team has a low point or lays an egg in a season. It happens. 2) No coach who's coached for any time will come without some skeletons in their closet. The best have them. 3) The SEC is not for the faint of heart. Many "successful" coaches in other contexts have only to get their team "up" for 2 or 3 big games a year. 4) Good coaches learn and mature. Just because they had a bad season somewhere in their past is not a disqualifier. 5) The name of the game is championships (courtesy of Bill Arnsparger). If a candidate doesn't get that I'll pass.


6) Any coach that is 3-21 in SEC all time is eliminated from HC consideration
Posted by Terry the Tiger
Cypress, Texas
Member since Jul 2009
3494 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 10:57 pm to
quote:

Take a coach like Herman whose teams are throwing the ball in a run-gun offense. I have a want for him, but would that mix work year after year in the SEC? What would you do with tailbacks that we recruit so well, give them 10-12 carries a game?


Zeke Elliot rushed for 1900 yards, 18 TDs, 6.9 ypc in 2014 under Herman. He is not a one trick pony.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79845 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 11:03 pm to
quote:

2) No coach who's coached for any time will come without some skeletons in their closet. The best have them.


We are all more worried about the skeletons out of the closet.

Some people don't have enough closet space.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21535 posts
Posted on 9/30/16 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

Any coach that is 3-21 in SEC all time is eliminated from HC consideration


I'm guessin' that was CEO's record at OM?

Fair enough, but most think Saban is a better coach now than when he was here. Arnsparger had a dismal record in the NFL and did ok.

CEO had already redeemed himself somewhat from his brief stint at USC. If he knocks it out of the park I'd be ok giving him another at-bat.
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