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Posted on 1/16/11 at 12:12 pm to CalTiger
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probably Michigan was high in the instep and didn't even give it consideration.
bullshite. these are smart guys who are used to negotiating. leaking something with no value and a high risk of making you look stupid is something most mcdonalds managers know not to do
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Though we think that we have all the info based on TD and other reliable/factual sources - the school and its employees might actually have other sources and people who have proven to be reliable in the past and can probably given them better advice/information to make a proper decision.
we have 2 sides saying different things to rally teh ranter-types of the fanbase. the truth is likely in the middle somewhere
but the fact remains, it is all but impossible for the LSU BOS to know miles was offered more money
the LSU BOS may have been told by miles or his agent he had a big offer, but that's a far cry from knowing the offer was legit
Posted on 1/16/11 at 12:19 pm to RightKindaGuy
Not entirely true. He turned more down annually to keep and through negotiations, increase his guaranteed money.
LSU would have been better off paying him $5 mill a year with not buyout than $3.75 mill with a $15 million consolation prize if fired after the 2013 season.
He could conceivably finish 3rd in the west behind Ark and Alabama for the next 5 years and it is going to cost LSU a fortune to make a change.
LSU would have been better off paying him $5 mill a year with not buyout than $3.75 mill with a $15 million consolation prize if fired after the 2013 season.
He could conceivably finish 3rd in the west behind Ark and Alabama for the next 5 years and it is going to cost LSU a fortune to make a change.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 12:32 pm to Choctaw
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i don't know why some people refuse to acknowledge that Miles was offered the UM job and it may have been a great offer.
I think they offered him and it was relatively good deal, but not enough for him to leave what kind of team he'll have at LSU.
Had they offered 5 years at 25 million hed be doting blue and maize.
Nobody is taking slightly more money to leave a legitimate title contending team, despite what your alma matter is.
It was an extremely smart career move, plain and simple. He goes to Michigan and dont produce and he is potentially on his arse and back to square 1 .
This post was edited on 1/16/11 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 1/16/11 at 12:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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bullshite. these are smart guys who are used to negotiating. leaking something with no value and a high risk of making you look stupid is something most mcdonalds managers know not to do
If Julian Assange can get data for wikileaks , it is not unthinkable that someone in Michigan could have passed the info. It is not national security (and even that is leaked).
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we have 2 sides saying different things to rally teh ranter-types of the fanbase.
Agreed
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the truth is likely in the middle somewhere
Needn't be - could be one side is telling the truth and the other is trying to save face.
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but the fact remains, it is all but impossible for the LSU BOS to know miles was offered more money
the LSU BOS may have been told by miles or his agent he had a big offer, but that's a far cry from knowing the offer was legit
There is no fact here - it is pure conjecture on your part as well as mine.
All but impossible for a poster on a message board is not the same as for a person who has more sources and resources and is going to fix the salary for his hire. They care about something more important than pretty wins - revenue and they are not going to base their decisions on anything short of irrefutable facts.
Are you just refusing to read the possible answers and solutions as to how they could have known? Of is it just a question of Cognitive Dissonance preventing you from acknowledging that
1. yes there could have been an unofficial offer that was disclosed by miles or agent to the BOS (could have been a type of NDA for all that you know - so it can't be published or shown only to a select few).
2. they have better sources/ we know zilch and all our sources are from TD and equally unreliable places.
I am out.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 12:45 pm to CalTiger
another interesting point to consider is that hoke could bend the michigan AD over a barrel----- at this point Hoke could demand 4+ million per year---- what could DB do?-----especially after proclaiming Hoke was his first choice------- I'm not saying he would do that, just that he could-----that is if the contract is not yet finalized.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 1:10 pm to RightKindaGuy
Based on some of the uber-supportive comments about Miles in this thread, it becomes pretty clear as to why it's possible somebody would say he was offered a fat contract and turned it down.
I am in the camp that believes he was offered a decent contract, but to say it's not possible this information is fluff to build up the reputation of a coach who is relatively beleaguered despite his success makes total sense. Especially when they quickly sign him to a 7-year deal soon afterwards.
I am in the camp that believes he was offered a decent contract, but to say it's not possible this information is fluff to build up the reputation of a coach who is relatively beleaguered despite his success makes total sense. Especially when they quickly sign him to a 7-year deal soon afterwards.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 1:11 pm to RightKindaGuy
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Hoke was his first choice
Hoke was the fallback guy. Nothing more, nothing less. If you think UM made all those trips, went into all that huff to offer the same or $1 more? A sizable offer was made, with many extras. Its better for UM to turn down a coach, never the other way around.
Les knows whats going on up there. Its more than whats on the field. Same thing thats going on at Neb. and soon at another SEC school.
I know coaches that have interviewed, offered jobs that would say, "I was never offered the job."
Happens all the time. It has to be the right fit, its not about money many times. Coaches are people too, with some $$$$$$$$ is one of the last things they look at.
This post was edited on 1/16/11 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 1/16/11 at 1:12 pm to RightKindaGuy
lol you just got that quote directly from mgoblog
Posted on 1/16/11 at 1:14 pm to RightKindaGuy
I call Bull chit. No friggin way Michigan made an additional offer. Miles has lied in the past, and I would not put it beyond him telling that chit now. Look how quick they offered Hoke! I don't think Miles was a true option. He was no more than a formality. Only LSU would give Miles such a lucrative deal. Miles is laughing every night. He can give us the 8-9 wins a year, and there is not one damn thing LSU can do to change it without costing at least $15 million. Miles could be fired in the 6th year, & still walk away with $6 million.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 1:17 pm to AquaMan2342
This story does seem to serve the purposes of the AD and the BOS by taking some (potential) heat off for the extension and buyout terms, if any.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 1:22 pm to LSUFAN2
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I call Bull chit. No friggin way Michigan made an additional offer.
An Harbaugh was never offered.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 1:28 pm to LSUFAN2
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Your point?
Have you read my posts?
Posted on 1/16/11 at 1:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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it is all but impossible for the LSU BOS to know miles was offered more money
Holy shite
Posted on 1/16/11 at 1:34 pm to RightKindaGuy
quote:No freaking way this happened!!!
Miles Turned Down More Money to Stay at LSU
The Michigan Boards were saying he was offered way les just to appease some Michigan higher ups.
They never wanted him or expected him to accept the ridicoulsy(sp) low amount he was offered.
No way this happened!!! No way!
Coach Miles is the shite!!!!!
We love you Coach Miles!!!
Posted on 1/16/11 at 1:36 pm to LSUDad
I love all the mental hoops the Les haters have to jump through to maintain their delusions about him being a horrible coach.
I mean, if you can stay convinced that he's horrible given the fact that he's the most successful coach we've ever had I'm sure it's not a big leap to come up with reasons why the Michigan AD would fly down here to talk to him other than offering him a job. Gotta be a plot by the dumbest man in the world to get over on LSU with the collusion of Michigan....
/rubs hands together and cackle menacingly
Take your meds people.
Occam's Razor is all you need here.
I mean, if you can stay convinced that he's horrible given the fact that he's the most successful coach we've ever had I'm sure it's not a big leap to come up with reasons why the Michigan AD would fly down here to talk to him other than offering him a job. Gotta be a plot by the dumbest man in the world to get over on LSU with the collusion of Michigan....
/rubs hands together and cackle menacingly
Take your meds people.
Occam's Razor is all you need here.
Posted on 1/16/11 at 1:36 pm to LSUFAN2
quote:Go away Troll! You are not fooling anyone asshat.
LSUFAN2
Posted on 1/16/11 at 1:37 pm to STLSU
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emoticons are back, Thank you Jesus
i thought i was the only one who wasn't able to see them....
thank God they are back!Posted on 1/16/11 at 1:37 pm to Cadello
was thinking the same thing...pretending to be an "LSUFAN" to stir trouble. classic.
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