re: Miles said he wasn't going to UM at his press conference

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but if we have a national title run next year, no one will care about this year

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True. But if we lose 3 or more games again, be ready to fire this board back up

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But if we lose 3 or more games again, be ready to fire this board back up

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no way...Miles has at least two more seasons before his seat gets warm. Buyout his too high. As frustrating as the offense can be, Miles has done well for LSU. Things could have easily gone downhill after Saban left, but Miles has matched Saban's success. We need to appreciate what he has done.

I tend to agree about the 2 more years. Just got to hope he can find a way to get enough production from the QB to compete for a playoff spot. Now that we are "stuck" with him again that's all we can do is hope he somehow adapts on offense.

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The first 5 years were great, the second 5 years were 'meh', and the last 5 years have clearly been very dissapointing, at least since 2011

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Let's look at it objectively:

1st 5 years:
2000 : 8-4
2001: 10-3
2002: 8-5
2003: 13-1
2004: 9-3

2nd 5 years:
2005: 11-2
2006: 11-2
2007: 12-2
2008: 8-5
2009: 9-4

3rd 5 years:
2010: 10-3
2011: 13-1
2012: 10-3
2013: 10-3
2014: 8-4

I honestly don't understand how you would call the first 5 years considerably better than the 2nd or 3rd. Is it because of the improvement from the 90's? Or because we won 2 SEC championships? I mean we went to the sec championship in 2001 after going 8-3 in the regular season and losing by 29 to Florida. That just doesn't cut it in the sec west today.

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I know people love to claim that it isn't fair to take away his first 3 years, but LSU was a built team at that point talent-wise.

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Those people would be right. If you want to credit a coach who split from LSU 12/04 for the results of a game that took place 1/08, knock yourself out. I think that's kinda silly and naïve, but each to our own.

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To be fair, if you take out Saban's NC season

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I am not interested in cherry picking Nick's stay here anymore than I am interested in cherry picking the Miles stay here. They fully are responsible for their accomplishments at LSU.

I think judging a HC is best done in 3 yr periods and the total results. That's why I broke it down that way and that's why I feel this time period will be best judged after the 2016 season. If Miles doesn't pick up the pace next yr., then the warning flags in my mind will begin waving.

I fully expect Miles to have the same type recovery as he had in 2010-2013. I mean, those 4 yrs saw LSU go 44-9. Not exactly results to have a cow over.

I suggest we hold our water a little before we break out the cliff diving gear, but each to our own.

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lets look at the past 9 LSU football coaches

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the program is not what it once was in 1998
the facilities, the prestige, the NFL pipeline, the $$$$...

everything is different now. LSU is built to succeed since Saban awoke the program back in 2000.

he matched the success that Saban had at LSU.

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the program is not what it once was in 1998

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I agree to a degree and that's true due in large part to the efforts of the LSU players and coaches housed at LSU the past decade. A decade in which the SEC has never been stronger. The LSU program began to awake in 1995 and fully did so with the hire of Saban and Emmert.

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the facilities, the prestige, the NFL pipeline, the $$$$

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Ask Tenn., Bama, Fla., Neb., OSU, and ND what "the facilities, the prestige, the NFL pipeline, the $$$$..." do for you without a HC who successful maintains the program.

While we certainly need to thank Gerry, Nick, and Mark for what they all helped to rebuild, a very big thanks needs to go out to Miles/staff/players for what they have maintained for a decade or more after those 3 left LSU.

Lets not forget that LSU had 9 wins, was ranked #16, and was out of the SEC title run in Oct. the yr. Miles took over. While I understand bout the foundation stuff, that foundation would not have meant crap without the efforts displayed on the field which had little to nothing to do with a guy doing his coaching in Miami.

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The first 5 years were great, the second 5 years were 'meh', and the last 5 years have clearly been very dissapointing,

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more revisionist history from the Saban fanboys