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re: LSUWire - LSU’s hire will be judged by how well Billy Napier does in Florida
Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:56 pm to macaoidh
Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:56 pm to macaoidh
quote:While true, how many coaches begging for the LSU job fell back on an SEC rival?
If our guy doesn't turn out to be any good, it won't just be Billy Napier we'll be complaining about not hiring. There will be a whole list of other coaches that we might have gone after who are better.
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:56 pm to gbalsamo4
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So if Napier sucks and the LSU hire just kinda sucks, it’s a win? Or does this stupid statement only go one way? Basically what you’re saying is if Napier is good, then LSU blew it. Better hire every Sun Belt stud from here on out. What about all of the other coaches LSU could have signed? No comparison there? Just Napier because he coached USL?
No, if Napier kills it and LSU's hire sucks arse, then I'll definitely judge Woodward for that. Seeing as he was pretty openly campaigning for the LSU job and we never even so much as called him. If LSU's hire does a good job and Napier is like the last few Florida hires have been then whatever.
But if we make a bad hire and they knock it out of the park, then yeah, Woodward does deserve to have a shitload of blame.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:57 pm to TrueTigerTale
The guy who wrote this article has clearly been tainted by this board. 
Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:58 pm to TrueTigerTale
I mean if Napier does well and we don’t with this hire it will be easy to say we fricked up by passing on him. It’s gonna be a few years before that question is answered though
Posted on 11/29/21 at 3:58 pm to gbalsamo4
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No, because there isn’t a single person who would have hired Napier over Riley.
That’s just it, LSU could get Napier, now Fla has him now LSU looks like the last girl without a prom date.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 4:00 pm to gbalsamo4
quote:Definitely not BoB, Stoops, Jimbo, or any of Jimbo’s lookalikes. Fickell, Campbell, Aranda, Rhule, Meyer, or even Kiffen would be fine.
So who does LSU have to hire for you to be okay with Napier not being considered for the job?
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 11/29/21 at 4:02 pm to grizzlylongcut
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No, if Napier kills it and LSU's hire sucks arse, then I'll definitely judge Woodward for that. Seeing as he was pretty openly campaigning for the LSU job and we never even so much as called him. If LSU's hire does a good job and Napier is like the last few Florida hires have been then whatever. But if we make a bad hire and they knock it out of the park, then yeah, Woodward does deserve to have a shitload of blame.
So again, say the hire is some big name like Urban or Dabo or one of the other long shots being floated here. You’re telling me you wouldn’t have ignored Napier as well? The whole idea of the hire being judged by what Napier does is dumb as hell unless Woodward doesn’t have a proven coach in the works.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 4:03 pm to TrueTigerTale
no it won’tPosted on 11/29/21 at 4:03 pm to TrueTigerTale
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By Patrick Conn - USAToday LSUWire - Fair or not that's how Woodward will be judged, that LSU is considered better for recruiting and LSU could have hired Napier, so if Napier does better at Fla, that it's a failure by Woodward.
Faulty premise that is lacking in focus on the complete picture.
Let's say LSU coach wins a Natty, but Napier has a better W/L record, was that a failure? Hell no.
Let's say both coaches bomb, but LSUs coach wins 5 more games than Napier. Was that a success? Hell no.
If both do extremely well like the Miles/Meyers period of 2006-2008 would either hire be considered a failure? Hell no.
etc., etc., etc................
Just a steaming pile of doggy doo of an article.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 4:04 pm to TrueTigerTale
There will be constant comparisons. They're tied together.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 4:06 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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Definitely not BoB, Stoops, Jimbo, or any of Jimbo’s lookalikes. Fickell, Campbell, Aranda, Rhule, Meyer, or even Kiffen would be fine.
Exactly what I thought. It’s depends on your impression of the hire ahead of time. It’s conditional. Therefore, stupid
Posted on 11/29/21 at 4:08 pm to Green Chili Tiger
No it’s not. We should not have let the great prospect from down the street walk. It’s fricking stupid
Posted on 11/29/21 at 4:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There will be constant comparisons. They're tied together.
Exactly Roger, don’t understand the melt for writing something that is obvious.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 4:09 pm to donRANDOMnumbers
Billy, the greatest coach since Nick Saban, after all they passed each other in the hallway a few times at Bama
Posted on 11/29/21 at 4:10 pm to TrueTigerTale
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Exactly Roger, don’t understand the melt for writing something that is obvious.
These aren't reasonable people.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 4:17 pm to Curtis Lowe
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Just a steaming pile of doggy doo of an article.
Why? Because it’s true? Are you saying there won’t be constant comparisons? What are you saying?
Posted on 11/29/21 at 4:27 pm to TrueTigerTale
That will always be the sub story. LSU will be judged by what Florida does and what Bama does. The comparisons of O to Mullen were brutal until O started racking up the wins. So effing what. It didn’t help O.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 4:27 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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That's stupid as shite.
Same thing happened with Mike McCarthy and Sean Payton. There were a lot of Green Bay Packers sportswriters saying that they got it wrong in early 2010. Is it's a flawed logic? Absolutely, but it's an easy comparison and it's going to happen.
This post was edited on 11/29/21 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 11/29/21 at 4:29 pm to gbalsamo4
quote:I do see your point, but also... the hire matters & Napier is relevant to how this search is ultimately perceived.
Exactly what I thought. It’s depends on your impression of the hire ahead of time. It’s conditional. Therefore, stupid
To be fair, I did say “depending on the hire” this is true.
Posted on 11/29/21 at 4:53 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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LSU’s hire will be judged by how well Billy Napier does in Florida
That's stupid as shite.
The article is a good read actually. SHort for the TLDR crowd. The OP is seems to be couched in a way to draw ire. What the arthur says is as following, which is hard to refute.
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Whether fair or not, the eventual LSU hire will be judged, in part, by how well Billy Napier does.
Goes on to say that a lot will have to do with if Napier can poach some kids from NOLA or even the Lafayette area. And that if the LSU is a failure and Florida starts winning the east and beating LSU annually under Napier, it will be viewed as a whiff by Woodward and possibly warm his seat up a bit.
I'm not sure about the last part in terms of the power brokers but otherwise it is hard to call that stupid as shite.
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