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Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:35 am to Choupique19
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How can you claim he broke his "morality clause" when the alleged incident happened 4 years ago and you helped sweep it under the rug as long as he was your head coach?
Lawyers.
Does Brian want his named dragged through the mud potentially jeopardizing future coaching and/or media gigs worth tens of million for many years?
I mean ESPN is paying Saban $15 million a year. Now I know Brian will never get Saban money from ESPN, but $5 million a year is reasonable. PLUS, advertising.
Brian has to weigh a damaged reputation against future earnings. How much is that worth now? What is the net present value of his future earnings with and without a damaged reputation?
Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:36 am to BigWinnie
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Ah okay. "Kaare Johnson." Sure. That's a reputable source. Definitely
It's not the only source.
It was known before Kaare posted about it.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:36 am to GumboPot
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He mentions zero mitigating factors that will reduce the $54 million buyout to $25 or even $20 AND that the buyout can be paid over time. The key mitigating factor being the "morality clause".
Why does this bother you? If LSU can convince him to accept a lump sum payment, that's great. Trying to use this whole "morality clause" as cause for termination is trashy as frick and isn't going to work. As another poster said, did LSU find out about the affair on Saturday night? No, they've known for years, good luck arguing that in court. Pay this a-hole the money he is owed and move on.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:38 am to BU Bear In BR
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Woah! A moscona thread that's lasted more than 10 minutes without getting whacked!
I like Moscona. He is a regular listen for me. I just disagree with his buyout analysis.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:38 am to GumboPot
Unless he was shtooping an undergrad or frequenting gay clubs and putting his boyfriend on staff.....I don't see where bagging your RE agent is a morality thing, per se
Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:40 am to CaneyLake
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As another poster said, did LSU find out about the affair on Saturday night?
This point is an arrow in Brian's quiver.
Do you know how negotiations work?
Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:42 am to KiwiHead
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I don't see where bagging your RE agent is a morality thing, per se
Snip from Brain’s contract:
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Engaging in serious misconduct which either: (1) displays a
continual, serious disrespect or continual, serious disregard for the
mission of LSU; (ii) brings Employee into substantial public
disrepute sufficient, at the discretion of LSU, in a manner sufficient
to materially impair Employee's ability to perform the obligations
contained herein without material adverse impact on the Team or
Program; or (iii) constitutes moral turpitude and breaches the high
moral and ethical standards applicable to Employee as a visible
representative of LSU, including but not limited to, a knowing and
material act of dishonesty, misrepresentation, or fraud, or an act of
violence where Employee is the aggressor; in each case whether or
not it rises to level of criminal prosecution by the relevant
authorities;
This clause is vague enough for the lawyers to fight it out.
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 9:44 am
Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:42 am to GumboPot
That's some asshat "sports reporter" from New Orleans. I don't believe for one second that they have actual sources close to the program. That's basically the NO version of Lonn.
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 9:44 am
Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:43 am to GumboPot
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Does Brian want his named dragged through the mud potentially jeopardizing future coaching and/or media gigs worth tens of million for many years?
Does LSU want their name dragged throught the mud? We gave a coach a contract and are now trying to black mail him to get out of it? LSU had no issue with BK's "morality" as long as he was winning football games.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:44 am to Optimism
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Moscona also said BK wouldn’t be fired
Lots of people did. It's pretty clear from everything posted/reported on Sunday that this all was decided and came together quickly during the 2nd half on Saturday night.
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loves Scott Woodward because he is a BR society guy and went to Catholic High
So what if people like Woodward? I haven't heard one person, including Moscona, say he's not getting fired once the new president is named.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:44 am to GumboPot
Moscona sucks but he did mention the mitigating factors at some point in his show yesterday. Also he is totally covering for Woodward.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:45 am to GumboPot
An affair that has never been more than an internet rumor (whether true or not) is not a breach of that clause.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:46 am to Choupique19
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We gave a coach a contract and are now trying to black mail him to get out of it?
Some people call it blackmailing, others call it fiduciary.
Scott has fiduciary toward LSU via legal representation. It's not only ethical its his job.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:48 am to crazyLSUstudent
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Moscona sucks but he did mention the mitigating factors at some point in his show yesterday.
Okay, I missed that then. I appreciate you bringing that up.
I don't want to turn this into a bash Moscona session because I actually enjoy his content.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:51 am to GumboPot
As an average fan, you should absolutely not give a shite about the buyout.
It's not your money, and not the taxpayer's money. Just be glad that our fanbase is so bought in, and so passionate, that someone WAS willing to pay it.
It's not your money, and not the taxpayer's money. Just be glad that our fanbase is so bought in, and so passionate, that someone WAS willing to pay it.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 10:03 am to GumboPot
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He mentions zero mitigating factors that will reduce the $54 million buyout to $25 or even $20 AND that the buyout can be paid over time. The key mitigating factor being the "morality clause".
Did yall not read the official statement that LSU put out? LINK
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“When Coach Kelly arrived at LSU four years ago, we had high hopes that he would lead us to multiple SEC and national championships during his time in Baton Rouge,” Woodward said. “Ultimately, the success at the level that LSU demands simply did not materialize, and I made the decision to make a change after last night’s game.
If LSU had any ideas of trying to invoke a morality clause to try to reduce the buyout figure, then LSU absolutely would not have included anything about on-field success not meeting expectations in the official statement the athletic department put out related to his firing.
There are no mitigating factors that LSU is trying to use to reduce the buyout. The only way the buyout is going to be reduced is either by being offset by BK's earnings at whatever job he takes next....or if BK agrees to a lower total buyout in exchange for LSU paying it in a lump sum and/or waiving the offset clause.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 10:06 am to GumboPot
Thinking of it from the outside, there are two perspectives that make it make sense.
First, while the standard is very high, going around alleging things like he broke his morality clause at minimum invites the possibility of a defamation suit. Now proving actual malice is extremely hard, but for Moscona is that worth it to even invite that potential litigation? Now some actual reporters with tangible evidence may mention it if it exists because truth is a defense.
Secondly, this would be the third coach in a row at LSU that would have had very public affairs. That's a terrible look for the athletic program, and specifically the football program. As an outsider, it also looks pretty shitty that LSU is okay with covering for it while they are winning, and only gets exposed when they are fired (in Les's case sued).
First, while the standard is very high, going around alleging things like he broke his morality clause at minimum invites the possibility of a defamation suit. Now proving actual malice is extremely hard, but for Moscona is that worth it to even invite that potential litigation? Now some actual reporters with tangible evidence may mention it if it exists because truth is a defense.
Secondly, this would be the third coach in a row at LSU that would have had very public affairs. That's a terrible look for the athletic program, and specifically the football program. As an outsider, it also looks pretty shitty that LSU is okay with covering for it while they are winning, and only gets exposed when they are fired (in Les's case sued).
Posted on 10/28/25 at 10:21 am to GumboPot
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This is just one source.
Shitty source.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 10:22 am to GumboPot
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Some people call it blackmailing, others call it fiduciary.
Scott has fiduciary toward LSU via legal representation. It's not only ethical its his job.
You’re generally better than this.
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