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John Heacock - Iowa St DC

Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:53 am
Posted by deaux
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:53 am
Seems to be a good defensive mind and has a lot of folks copying the 3-3-3 defense he’s installed up in Ames. Wonder if anyone tries to steal him away.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:54 am to
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3-3-3 defense


Having 9 defensive players doesn’t seem like a strategy that’ll work in the SEC
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
12325 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:56 am to
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Having 9 defensive players doesn’t seem like a strategy that’ll work in the SEC


Couldn't be any worse than the defense Pelini put out this year.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:59 am to
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3-3-3 defense


Having 9 defensive players doesn’t seem like a strategy that’ll work in the SEC




And in a 4-3 or 3-4 you only have 7 on the field, right? Heacock’s defense is like an odd dime look with 3 safeties. Similar to a 3-3-5 personnel wise but 3 safeties over the top.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:18 am to
3-3-5 is a terrible defense. Big 12 teams run it

WVU
Houston
Iowa St

Baylor (Rule ran it)

Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:26 am to
It isn’t the same 3-3-5 scheme of years past. When you’ve got guys like Venables and Belichick copying from you, you’re probably doing something right.

Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8697 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:01 am to
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3-3-5 is a terrible defense. Big 12 teams run it

WVU
Houston
Iowa St

Baylor (Rule ran it)



This dumbass still probably thinks the 4-6 Defense the '85 Bear ran is the superior defensive front to run in CFB
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8697 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:02 am to
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3-3-5 is a terrible defense. Big 12 teams run it

WVU


Do you realize how improved the WVU defense is this year?? Like frick.. how can y'all be so fricking ignorant ?
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:03 am to
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It isn’t the same 3-3-5 scheme of years past. When you’ve got guys like Venables and Belichick copying from you, you’re probably doing something right.



Venables runs a 4-3 base. Belichick runs a 3-4 base

Throwing in a 3-3-5 on certain downs is fine.

Running it as a base defense is moronic.... name a consistent top 5 defense in the country that runs that.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:08 am to
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Do you realize how improved the WVU defense is this year?? Like frick.. how can y'all be so fricking ignorant ?


If it's such a great fricking defense why isn't saban, Kirby, day, dabo, Riley, cristibol, Wisconsin, auburn, Florida, etc running it as a base?

Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23717 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:00 am to
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3-3-5 is a terrible defense. Big 12 teams run it

It was the most successful defense against the 2019 LSU team. Its what Auburn held them to 20 or 23 (don't remember the final score) pts with.

Problem is you have to have a fantastic front 3 for it to be successful. Clemson tried it (after seeing AU be effective with it) and had a little success until they were worn down midway through the 2nd qtr in the championship game.
This post was edited on 12/17/20 at 11:02 am
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9901 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:51 am to
Coach O is not leaving the 4-3 , that was the promise to Smith.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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23755 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 12:16 pm to
He ahs been with Campbell a long time and has little interest in moving.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 1:19 pm to
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He ahs been with Campbell a long time and has little interest in moving.


Looks like he was previously a HC at YSU. If Campbell leaves do you think he follows or would he be a candidate to replace him in Ames?
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
22644 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 2:13 pm to
it did have some success against us in 19 but I think it was a combo of the weather that day, our shite field, and Bo Nix being utter trash. We knew he wasn't going to beat us so O went safe
Posted by hiremikeleach
Member since Dec 2019
4621 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 2:17 pm to
Miss state runs it and their defense is pretty good
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 12/17/20 at 3:53 pm to
Campbell leaving is less than 10%. He was wishing to be in Ames before he got here and has put down some pretty good roots. Plus talent wise he is just getting "his" players in their Jr and RS Soph years. Yes this year's seniors is his first class but that was a short cycle.

Ohio State is probably his ultimate dream job but they are pretty set coaching wise.

As far as IF he was to leave would Heacock be the replacement? I doubt it. Pollard (AD) usually goes outside for new hires.
Posted by Mud_Till_May
Member since Aug 2014
9685 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 4:48 pm to
If you can get a rush with 3 guys you can do whatever you want
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 6:16 pm to
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It was the most successful defense against the 2019 LSU team. Its what Auburn held them to 20 or 23 (don't remember the final score) pts with.

Problem is you have to have a fantastic front 3 for it to be successful. Clemson tried it (after seeing AU be effective with it) and had a little success until they were worn down midway through the 2nd qtr in the championship game.



JC I'm talking about it as a base defense. Steele ran a variation of it for one game but that's not his base defense and that's not what he recruited defensive players to play.

Clemson tried it for 1 quarter

That's scheme not a base.
Posted by LSUFAN2
Tennessee
Member since Jan 2011
2646 posts
Posted on 12/17/20 at 7:56 pm to
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