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it's a win win situation

Posted on 1/9/11 at 7:05 pm
Posted by dreaux
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Posted on 1/9/11 at 7:05 pm
I like most, was up in arms with the thought of miles leaving. We can make a NC run next year, we have a great class coming in etc, etc.

I also don't know how many programs lose their coach when the program is in such good a shape as ours is now. We are lucky that we are not losing our coach because he ran the program into the ground and needed to get bought out and fired.

We are lucky enough that we are LSU and not rutgers/louiville where it would destroy the program. We also have the best recruiting situation in the SEC

over the last coaching change we did not miss a beat. ANd if not for the worst natural disaster in american history we might have won the 05 national title with or without saban.

point is, we have a very young team and the starters we have coming back alone is enough to make a run next year (assuming the recruiting class completely falls apart).

Very few true freshman play anyway.

weather it's pelini, gruden , mullen we will be fine.

If miles stays we will be fine.

I would prefer he stays for continuity, but a shake up would not be a bad thing either, might even get a little more identity.

In short, we are lucky that the last two coaches left the program at a elite level, and they left because 1 wanted the NFL and the other has the only job open that he would take no matter where he was coaching. How many other programs can say that??

Posted by aVatiger
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Posted on 1/9/11 at 7:06 pm to
At least you didn't mention Gruden
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
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Posted on 1/9/11 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

At least you didn't mention Gruden


I did as a HA HA
Posted by dreaux
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Posted on 1/9/11 at 7:13 pm to
Posted by BigShotBobert
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 1/9/11 at 7:13 pm to
This is pretty much how I feel. Maybe I lean towards wanting him to leave a little more than you do, but ultimately I'm good either way. We are in good shape, but there are coaches out there that would give me a little more confidence than Miles does
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
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Posted on 1/9/11 at 7:15 pm to
yup. Cool either way.

Unless we hire tuberville
Posted by peopleschamp
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
6576 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 7:17 pm to
I agree dreaux. Well said. Miles has recruited well. We are in good shape. We have won with average to good coaching. We should be in good shape even if we hire a solid coach. If Miles stays we will win alot of games. Hopefully we go back to Atlanta eventually.
Posted by lsu mike
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Posted on 1/9/11 at 7:17 pm to
That is why I wish they would get on with it. If he is leaning towards/wanting to leave pull the trigger and don't try to suck LSU out of more money. Let them begin the new coaching search and interviewing process and move on.
Posted by Bandit9
Lafayette, La.
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/9/11 at 7:19 pm to
I agree with all that except Crowton CAN NOT return.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
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Posted on 1/9/11 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

I agree with all that except Crowton CAN NOT return.


i agree on this as well
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/9/11 at 7:55 pm to
i would ask if you people are honestly this dumb but apparently you are.

Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 1/9/11 at 7:57 pm to
You know, it's not really French benefits.
Posted by Bandit9
Lafayette, La.
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/9/11 at 7:58 pm to
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/9/11 at 8:19 pm to
quote:

over the last coaching change we did not miss a beat


not true. miles first class was mediocre. then we had lot's of other issues with his first few classes. that really hurt our '08 and '09 seasons. it's kind of a learning curve thing in a new "market" with all new coaches. saban experienced it some but not as much.
Posted by DA
Member since Sep 2007
16251 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 8:24 pm to
I'm not stressing, yet.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/9/11 at 8:44 pm to
quote:

over the last coaching change we did not miss a beat


well maybe it didnt miss a beat because, and this is crazy i know, but because Miles is really good. because hes a really good head coach.

what on earth makes you think mullen or pelini or anyone else could do the same thing? what makes you think he can bring in guys like peterson (and now his brother) or ware, and hold off guys like saban?

look, if Miles leaves, we're in trouble. the odds of replacing him with someone as good are remote, at best. we dont have some god given right to 10 wins a year, as anyone who watched the 90s should know. if all you needed to win a title was natural talent and nice facilities, Texas would have more than one.

what kind of shape was florida in when Spurier left? did the AD hire Zook because he thought he was good or because he was hoping to ruin the program? bama has a good tradition in football, right? how did duboise, franchione, price and shula go? were those home runs? what about nebraska with callahan. do you really trust the judgment of aleva to get this right, after what he did at duke, bc i sure as hell dont.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23421 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 8:47 pm to
quote:

look, if Miles leaves, we're in trouble. the odds of replacing him with someone as good are remote, at best. we dont have some god given right to 10 wins a year, as anyone who watched the 90s should know. if all you needed to win a title was natural talent and nice facilities, Texas would have more than one.

what kind of shape was florida in when Spurier left? did the AD hire Zook because he thought he was good or because he was hoping to ruin the program? bama has a good tradition in football, right? how did duboise, franchione, price and shula go? were those home runs? what about nebraska with callahan. do you really trust the judgment of aleva to get this right, after what he did at duke, bc i sure as hell dont.

all good points.
Posted by hashtag
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Member since Aug 2005
33916 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 8:51 pm to
I actually stated earlier in the year that the best case scenario for LSU was that Miles lucked up and wins 10-12 games and that Michigan comes calling.

LSU going 7-5 or worse in order to get a new coach would have been a disaster and could have set back the program 5-10 years.

We have Miles to thank for not letting that happen.
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
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Member since May 2004
18669 posts
Posted on 1/9/11 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

quote:


over the last coaching change we did not miss a beat




not true. miles first class was mediocre. then we had lot's of other issues with his first few classes. that really hurt our '08 and '09 seasons. it's kind of a learning curve thing in a new "market" with all new coaches. saban experienced it some but not as much.


Yes, we all know Saban is great. He never had an 8-4 season after he got all of his "Saban" players......I think it would be funny if Les left and by some chance we talked Saban in to coming back and he won a MNC this year with "Les'" players.
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 1/9/11 at 8:53 pm to
quote:

well maybe it didnt miss a beat because, and this is crazy i know, but because Miles is really good. because hes a really good head coach.

what on earth makes you think mullen or pelini or anyone else could do the same thing? what makes you think he can bring in guys like peterson (and now his brother) or ware, and hold off guys like saban?

look, if Miles leaves, we're in trouble. the odds of replacing him with someone as good are remote, at best. we dont have some god given right to 10 wins a year, as anyone who watched the 90s should know. if all you needed to win a title was natural talent and nice facilities, Texas would have more than one.

what kind of shape was florida in when Spurier left? did the AD hire Zook because he thought he was good or because he was hoping to ruin the program? bama has a good tradition in football, right? how did duboise, franchione, price and shula go? were those home runs? what about nebraska with callahan. do you really trust the judgment of aleva to get this right, after what he did at duke, bc i sure as hell dont.


Well said.
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